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  User Icon fogdog

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2/18/2002 10:56:46 PM


I've been having this problem repeatedly. My windows XP freezes randomly at various times. I thought it might be a problem with the hard drive or something in it, so I reformatted the drive and reinstalled XP. Unfortunately, it is still freezing up. Oddly enough, XP freezes sometimes when sound is used or something like that and it freezes sounding like a broken record.

PLease help, I would greatly appreciate it!

  User Icon kakarot

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2/18/2002 11:05:10 PM


Are you installing the correct drivers for your soundcard?
What are you doing when it freezes?
  User Icon fogdog

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2/18/2002 11:09:53 PM


It's not just for sound. Sometimes it occurs when I'm using IE or other random programs.
  User Icon kakarot

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2/19/2002 12:34:00 AM


Very weird. Can you give some info about your hardware?
  User Icon dealth

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2/19/2002 11:29:01 PM


How much memory do you have installed on your computer??? It would be best if you have alteast 128 Megs of SDRAM 133 to run XP without any glitches. I generally feel that something is taking up too much memory in your computer, look at the startup folder and also the taskbar and clear out any programs not required like real player, jukebox etc..

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  User Icon coltuk

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9/21/2002 3:59:11 PM


i was having similar problem ,turned out my athlon xp pc doesnt like netgear network cards.they wwas even stopping it from restarting.changed to a diff make and all problems was fixed
  User Icon horsefly

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11/23/2002 2:30:25 AM


Hello,
I'm having the same problem with freezing in different places, when doing an email, surfing with lots of windows open or just one window open, moving to open a program, etc. etc. I have lots of memory 768 mb and I haven't checked it to see if it's bad, not quite sure how to do that. I have a nvidia tnt2 64 video card with the most recent updates, sb live value sound card with most recent updates, 40 gb maxtor hard drive (which I think is fine), kt7 abit mb with amd 1000 cpu, usb devices, palm cradle, iomega zip drive, smart card reader. I have disconnected all of these things and reinstalled xp about 10 times in the last 2 months and I'm about to throw the whole damn thing out the window! LMAO...pun intended! (Emoticon)!

Anyway, did anyone ever give you an answer that helped you or fixed these problems? Did this problem get resolved? Or did you just buy another computer? LOL

regards,
horsefly

This post was last edited by horsefly on Saturday, November 23, 2002 at 2:31:09 AM.
  User Icon sodablue

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11/23/2002 4:15:11 PM


Ok, here are my general theories with regards to computer lockups...

First - Check for cooling issues. I've had this come up on me numerous times, with memory overheating, video overheating, etc. The easiest way to check this is to remove the cover off the case and set a small desk fan directed into the computer. See if you can run stable with that. If so, then look into some cooling solutions. First make sure all optional fans in your case are installed. Usually an 80mm fan in front, sometimes in the rear... sometimes multiple ones. Otherwise something like the GlobalWin CAF12 card cooler, which sits above the cards and blows air over them(or something similar). Alternatively the Antec cases are quite nice, and you can get some of them with side panels with built in fans to blow over cards.

Second - Driver issues. Make sure you have the up to date BIOS on the motherboard. Any BIOS updates to video cards, etc. Install latest drivers for sound, network, etc. On motherboards with VIA chipset install the latest 4in1 drivers. (Although sometimes this causes issues, for instance the latest nVidia drivers are not compatible with the drivers for the WinTV card under XP, I found out... but I got bluescreens)

Third - Hardware Compatibility issues. This is harder to diagnose as you may need to swap out hardware. Start removing accessory cards... Leave the computer down to the barebones with video only, run that for a while. Then add sound... then add something else, etc. I had one case with XP and a SE440BX-2 motherboard where it wasn't compatible with a specific WD 30Gig drive I had. I installed a seperate IDE card I had, and then everything worked. The system had worked under Win2k, and I suspect XP was having difficulties detecting whether the IDE channel supported ATA-100 specs(it did not, but the drive did) and would cause the harddrive to error out and disconnect itself. That took me a day to figure out, so I realize these issues can be hard.


sodablue's secret to a solid crash-free computing environment:
#1 - Never buy motherboards with Via chipsets... which by extension unfortunately means never buy AMD processors as most of the AMD boards use Via. In fact, I stick to Intel processors on Intel boards. I focus on compatibility and stability first, then speed.
#2 - Buy quality RAM. I use Crucial, Kingston or PNY RAM, there are a couple others like Corsair that are good, but I've never bought them.
#3 - Cooling, cooling, cooling. I love the new Antec cases. I have an SX-835II, SX-1040B and a 2600AMG. Lot's of locations for fans, easy to install into, etc. The Performance II line have filters on front of case to help keep dust out of the fans. I try to buy good double-bearing fans with reasonable performance and low sound output. I especially like Sunon fans, but I've also had good luck with Antec and Vantec fans.
#4 - A hot room can play havoc on a cool case. During the summer I have a floor fan which blows into my office to help circulate air. In the winter, I shut the heat vents. (I have six systems... they heat the house!)
#5 - When installing drivers, always make sure you have a restore point in XP so you can roll back.
  User Icon horsefly

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11/24/2002 3:41:39 PM


I've been looking into all your suggestions, thanks.

I started with cooling and found that the cooling system blower on my sytem was just sitting there, not moving, not blowing, just sitting! I also found about 3 pounds of smootze in my case, dust, and removed that....also, the abit fan, the little one, doesn't spin, not the one on the cpu, that one works, but the little one that says abit on it, so I'm going to see if putting in a new one helps...

I've got all the newest drivers, updates, etc and I've taken out and put in new video and sound cards, and no difference. I think the problem is the motherboard.

So, now my problem is this....sigh...the money thing.
I think I will go back to the intel chips and get a better case with more cooling. My other "gripe" is that the 768 mb of ram I have now will probably not work with a new mb since most if not all of them, use ddr ram and I'll have to buy that new..sigh...it's always something eh?

I have never installed a motherboard and I'm a bit nervous about attempting it, but I don't want to pay someone else to do it and I guess it's time I got my "feet wet" in that arena.

Any suggestions on a good cheap mb with cpu and ram? I should start shopping around I suppose.

I'm going to Fry's today to take back a radeon video card that wouldn't boot up on my mb last night, so I'm gonna look and see if they have any sales going on.

thanks
horsefly
  User Icon epic60sman

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11/27/2002 6:17:50 PM


I'm having similar problems. The computer often freezes if I leave it sit with an active screen for more than 10 to 15 minutes. However, it can also freeze while I am working in WORD or some other program.
I have an AMD Athalon 1700+ with Maxtor 4DO 40H2 drive, an SIS 7012 Audio Driver. NVIDIA GeForce MX4 20 Video card and SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adaptor. I also have 128 mg RAM.

How do you find out what brand network cards you have?
Stephen


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by coltuk:
    i was having similar problem ,turned out my athlon xp pc doesnt like netgear network cards.they wwas even stopping it from restarting.changed to a diff make and all problems was fixed


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This post was last edited by epic60sman on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 6:19:45 PM.
  User Icon sodablue

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11/27/2002 11:28:34 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by horsefly:
    I've been looking into all your suggestions, thanks.

    I started with cooling and found that the cooling system blower on my sytem was just sitting there, not moving, not blowing, just sitting! I also found about 3 pounds of smootze in my case, dust, and removed that....also, the abit fan, the little one, doesn't spin, not the one on the cpu, that one works, but the little one that says abit on it, so I'm going to see if putting in a new one helps...





Ugh, I'd say if your fans aren't blowing air... that is probaby why you have problems.

I'd definately address that.
  User Icon scootervb2002

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12/1/2002 4:03:24 PM


here i am tyring to fix my dad's cpu and come here with similar problems,

his problem: random freezes
my solution: format, start all over

my problem: still freezing

ive formatted three times, with nothing installed but XP pro (SP1). and still freezes randomly

i find it interesting that This cpu has alot of what you guys have:

Maxtor 30 gig
geforce 3/4 (not sure)
soundblaster live value






  User Icon jlf2

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12/1/2002 9:36:35 PM


[I upgraded my hard drive to a maxtor 120 gig from a Maxtor 40 gig. No problems with the 40 but have re-formatted the 120 gig 3 times and the system still freezes when installing from a cd, when shutting down, uninstalling a program and sometimers on startup. I have pentium III 800 eb on an asus cusl2 with 384 mb of crucial ram and a radeon 8500 video card, on board sound.
any suggestions?
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  User Icon jlf2

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12/3/2002 1:14:38 AM


Well, I solved my problem. As some one in this forum suggested, I looked in the Admistrative tools in windows XP (Control panel\performance & maintenance\adminstrative tools\event viewer\system) and saw that each time my computer froze, my network card was involved. I took the card out and reinstalled it and now...ta da...no freezes. Hope this helps some one.
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  User Icon xssiveness

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12/4/2002 5:13:40 PM


I was having the exact symptom you describe fogdog. My system would hang, and sound like a broken record (usually when playing music from MusicMatch. Thought for a long time that there was an issue there, but to make a very tedious and long story short, I discovered that the problem ended up being my Soyo Dragon+ mobo. I went through two of them with the same type lockup problems. A lot of IRQ Less than or equal to blue screens too. I brought back the mobo and opted for a Gigabyte mobo. I thought for sure that I would have to rebuild the system from scratch (especially since the Soyo was using VIA KT-266A chipset, and the Gigabyte was using VIA KT-333), but to my utter amazement, XP enumerated all new mobo devices with no problems! The system has been rock solid for many months now. In fact, it's been the most reliable system I've ever had! Guess which mobo I'm using from now on?!!!
  User Icon Rathmore

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12/9/2002 2:47:04 PM


I've been having the same problems for ages... I originally bought an HP (had usually built my systems but got an EXCELLENT price on the HP) with Windows 98SE (About 3 years ago) and it froze all the time (no ctrl-alt-del, no nothin... just a frozen screen) I have since built a new system keeping the CPU hard drive, memory and network cards (2). It still froze on me... so I upgraded to windowsXP and a bigger hard drive... still froze... so I recently swapped out memory and upgraded to a P3 1Ghz (from a P3-533). Now it locks up faster and more often than ever, even during the windows loading process. The network cards seem like a good place to try, so I think that I'm going to give that a shot and let yall know.

BTW... ANY suggestions will be well accepted!!
  User Icon DanWyandt

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12/15/2002 2:51:34 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by Rathmore:
    I've been having the same problems for ages... I originally bought an HP (had usually built my systems but got an EXCELLENT price on the HP) with Windows 98SE (About 3 years ago) and it froze all the time (no ctrl-alt-del, no nothin... just a frozen screen) I have since built a new system keeping the CPU hard drive, memory and network cards (2). It still froze on me... so I upgraded to windowsXP and a bigger hard drive... still froze... so I recently swapped out memory and upgraded to a P3 1Ghz (from a P3-533). Now it locks up faster and more often than ever, even during the windows loading process. The network cards seem like a good place to try, so I think that I'm going to give that a shot and let yall know.

    BTW... ANY suggestions will be well accepted!!





Hi All, Thought I would throw my 2cents in...

Most of the suggestions I see are great, except for the AMD/VIA thing! That's way off! I personally run nothing but that combo - 5 servers w/1800 - 2200 athy's on Abit kr7's, and a pair of 1300 Durons on little ECS k7sem boards. Most of these are mail servers, web servers, RADIUS and Auditing. 2 are game servers. All but 2 are running XP, and have been for months with no down time or lockups at all.

One of the probs I have run into on Abit mobo's is with the KT7 and SBlaster Live cards. Never put them in PCI slot 5, and get the latest BIOS update. Watch your video cards, the latest nVIDIA drivers are not always the best.

Dan
  User Icon pgranese

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12/17/2002 11:55:22 AM


I have done EXTENSIVE testing on this problem for 2 months now. It is not a cooling or hardware issue. I have the Soyo K7VTA Mobo with AMD Atahlon and VIA chipset with WinXP and get the same random freeze-ups.

I have isolated the problem to problems with the BIOS and XP. The BIOS works fine with Win98 but not with XP and there is no BIOS upgrade for this Mobo.

You can find out what is causing the problem by running the event viewer which is what jlf2 above recommended (Control panel\performance & maintenance\adminstrative tools\event viewer\system). You will find many entries but look for the red circles marked ERROR. Read what the errors are and you will see the timestamp of those errors coincide with the time your system froze. My errors are that the BIOS is reading/writing to illegal addresses. As there is no BIOS upgrade I have to try to contact Soyo now and see if there is a patch. I'll let you guys know if I hear anything.

Paul
  User Icon DanKorte

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12/31/2002 4:46:31 PM


All:

I'm having the same freezing problem y'all are having and it's driving me crazy. Unfortunately I just now found out about this forum. oh well

Here's my situation. There is absolutely nothing in the Event Viewer that alludes to this freezing. My computer will lock up at random times and I am forced to either reset manually or just shut er down. I have spent over $300 buying spare equipment to swap out and test with, to no avail. I bought and swapped out: LAN cards, a new (2ndary) hard drive, CDRW drive, cooling fans, cable modem, zip drive, USB ports, all to no avail.

I have upgraded all drivers to all hardware and software. I have uninstalled software such as weatherbug, winamp, IE- anything that the computer seemed to hang while I was running. I've since reinstalled them, realizing that the problem is bigger than them. I have done disk cleanups. I turned off Remote Desktop. It's KILLING ME!!!!

I have tested the machine without speakers plugged in, without printer plugged in, without Internet jack plugged in. There just is no rhyme or reason to when it's going to decide to freeze on me. All else works great. I can't explain it and sure as hell don't want to take it to the shop and spend hundreds of dollars only to have them run the same tests I'm doing!!!

Here are the specs on my computer:

Operating System System Model
Windows XP Professional (build 2600) ECS K7S5A 1.0
System Serial Number: 123456890
Asset Tag: 0123ABC
Chassis Serial Number: 123456890
Processor a Main Circuit Board
1533 megahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: ECS K7S5A 1.0
Bus Clock: 66 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 07.00T 04/02/01
Drives Memory Modules
126.12 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
74.92 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

IBM-DTLA-307045 (46.12 GB) [Hard drive] -- drive 1
WDC WD800BB-00CAA1 (80.03 GB) [Hard drive] -- drive 0 512 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot '0' has 256 MB
Slot '1' has 256 MB
Slot '2' is Empty
Slot '3' is Empty
Local Drive Volumes

e: (on drive 0) 80.02 GB 37.06 GB free
f: (on drive 1) 46.10 GB 37.86 GB free


I am greatly appreciative of any advice you can offer. I've got a plan of action ahead of me to test a few more things such as reseating every card and cable; adding a 80mm fan; replacing RAM sticks. Thank you in advance.


Dan

This post was last edited by DanKorte on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 4:48:44 PM.
  User Icon python134r

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1/2/2003 5:56:00 PM


Ok, I know this is frustrating...Been there, done that! First...your bios is old...update it. Second what are your temps, cpu...ambient,etc. Are you overclocking? The ecs K7s5a Is very picky about power supplies and ram have you swictched them out and tell me exactly what hardware you have...rich g
  User Icon DanKorte

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1/3/2003 4:55:19 PM


Thanks, Rich. I'm not overclocking that I know of. I will look into updating the BIOS as well as getting the temps. I assume to do that I should just install the software that came with the motherboard? I neglected to mention that I did indeed swap out (in fact, upgrade) the power supply from a 250 to a 300. I'm going to have to get inside the box to get you specifics on the RAM.

As for hardware, here's what I've got: Iomega zip 100 external (which I removed from the equation in the troubleshooting process), HP 842c printer, a little video web cam, a Sandisk CF card reader, a brand new TDK CDRW 52x, Altec Lansing 3 piece speaker system,

what else do you need? Thanks, Rich et al.
  User Icon ejswift

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1/6/2003 11:07:37 AM


pgranese nailed it. It is the BIOS. Short article to the point.http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBL/tip5900/rh5911.htm..we need a patch from SOYO.
  User Icon kwah

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1/7/2003 9:18:39 PM


Ok guys i have the sam problem with my pc. It RANDOMLY freezes in Win XP pro. It did this before and after SP1. anyway the freezing can happen when i use anything or even when the system is idle.

Here are my hardware stats:

CPU Info: (1-AMD Thunderbird, 1202MHz, 256KB (9% Load))
Memory Usage: (Usage: 111/640MB (17.34%))(256 Crucial, 256 Kingston ValuRam, 128 Generic)
Virtual Memory: (Usage: 65/2048MB (3.2%))
Page File: (Usage: 97/1584MB (6.14%))
Hard Disks: (Total/Free space on: C: 18.64/0.39GB (Western Digital) ¤ D: 74.53/56.26GB (Western Digital 8mb Cache)¤ E: 19.08/19.01GB(Maxtor)) All HDD are 7200RPM and NTFS
Video card: (NVidia Vanta)
Network Interfaces: #1(D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI Adapter (10Mb/s)) #2(NETGEAR FA311/312 PCI Adapter (100Mb/s))
Motherboard: FIC AZ11
Built in Sound

Anyway i had this problem from the very beggining of having the computer. I tried reformatting and reinstalling XP at one point but it didnt help. I learned to live with it but it has gotten really annoying lately. So i just reformatted one of my disks and put 2k on it and we will see if it freezes (hasn't yet in the last 20 hours but thats not really an accomplishment cuz it could last 3 days before freezing on XP, and it could also last 5 minutes).

I have tried removing the NIC's one by one and even changing out the ram. only thing that seemed to help in regards to ram was PC-100 as oppsed to PC-133 but i tried it so long ago i dont remeber if it caused it not to freeze or just made it more stable)

If anyone has any or can help me out a little. please post here, email me or comtact me on AIM. THANKS!
  User Icon jazz

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1/8/2003 8:58:44 AM


Hi people.

Thank god I found this website. I've got a problem with a PC at work. I bought it brand new about 3 months ago. From the word go it has been freezing up randomnly for no reason. I run Windows XP. The only thing I have done to the computer is add a LAN card which the computer picked up on and installed itself.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks!
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1/8/2003 12:18:16 PM


Hi all
I'm having a freezing prob with an external hard drive. If I leave the drive on (connect to the PCI USB 2.0 card, only device connect to it) the PC will lock up some time thru the night/day. If I turn the drive off the comp will not lock up. Is there a driver issue with external enclosures? No power options are set to make drives spin down and overheating doesnt seem to be an issue.

TIA
  User Icon skyn_floote

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1/8/2003 12:18:28 PM


Hi all
I'm having a freezing prob with an external hard drive. If I leave the drive on (connect to the PCI USB 2.0 card, only device connect to it) the PC will lock up some time thru the night/day. If I turn the drive off the comp will not lock up. Is there a driver issue with external enclosures? No power options are set to make drives spin down and overheating doesnt seem to be an issue.

TIA
  User Icon skyn_floote

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1/8/2003 12:18:57 PM


Hi all
I'm having a freezing prob with an external hard drive. If I leave the drive on (connect to the PCI USB 2.0 card, only device connect to it) the PC will lock up some time thru the night/day. If I turn the drive off the comp will not lock up. Is there a driver issue with external enclosures? No power options are set to make drives spin down and overheating doesnt seem to be an issue.

TIA
  User Icon kwah

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1/8/2003 7:11:09 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by skyn_floote:
    Hi all
    I'm having a freezing prob with an external hard drive. If I leave the drive on (connect to the PCI USB 2.0 card, only device connect to it) the PC will lock up some time thru the night/day. If I turn the drive off the comp will not lock up. Is there a driver issue with external enclosures? No power options are set to make drives spin down and overheating doesnt seem to be an issue.

    TIA




I think we understood the problem after the first post. For those that didnt they should have gotten it on the second but 3 posts of the same thing is just STUPID!
  User Icon Kiko69

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1/11/2003 11:54:18 PM


I've had the same problem with AMD XP2100, same video card and WD 80G HD. Chip was running over 140 deg. Verified all cooling fans as sodablue had suggested, found that the thermal paste between CPU core and heat sink was not replaced when my "buddy" upgraded my chip - he had run out. I replaced it with a good quality paste. Temp dropped to 115 deg. at 100% CPU use. A tech also recommended that I install a small fan on the GForce video CPU heatsink and one on the VIA chipset as added precaution


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by epic60sman:
    I'm having similar problems. The computer often freezes if I leave it sit with an active screen for more than 10 to 15 minutes. However, it can also freeze while I am working in WORD or some other program.
    I have an AMD Athalon 1700+ with Maxtor 4DO 40H2 drive, an SIS 7012 Audio Driver. NVIDIA GeForce MX4 20 Video card and SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adaptor. I also have 128 mg RAM.

    How do you find out what brand network cards you have?
    Stephen


      QUOTE:

      Originally Posted by coltuk:
      i was having similar problem ,turned out my athlon xp pc doesnt like netgear network cards.they wwas even stopping it from restarting.changed to a diff make and all problems was fixed



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    Stephen


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1/15/2003 10:22:56 AM


check out Black Vipers Services Page, click on the lower left side that shows a image of Services name Serviceshttp://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#Application%20Layer%20Gateway%20Service
theres a couple of programs that can take up all your memory without you knowing. one thing is to scroll down on Services page and look at Indexing Services, which you wont need running. tons of stuff to disable and u should be running your machine without the slow downs your getting.
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1/15/2003 10:25:55 AM


Search on google for Black Viper and click the first link blackviper dot com, i had a runtime error posting the link and couldn't email u since u got no address, scroll down click on Services with the Services jpeg and follow the guide, be sure to disable Indexing Servies also, which may be one of ur main problems.
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1/17/2003 10:18:19 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by lavaboy:
    Search on google for Black Viper and click the first link blackviper dot com, i had a runtime error posting the link and couldn't email u since u got no address, scroll down click on Services with the Services jpeg and follow the guide, be sure to disable Indexing Servies also, which may be one of ur main problems.





Well, it makes me happy to see that I am not the only one having this problem. It is also driving me crazy. I know alot about computers and have been able to solve pretty much any problems in the past but this one is driving me nuts. I have an HP Visualize X class with a single 866MHz P3 processor and 512MB of RAM (PC133). Soundcard is a SoundBlaster Live Value and video card is an nVidia Quadro 2 Pro (64MB), LAN is an Intel integrated card.

I was running Windows 2000 Professional for well over a year with zero problems. Then through my employer I was able to get Windows XP pro for a fraction of the retail cost, so I took advantange of the offer. I formatted all hard drives and started from scratch when I installed XP. Got all the service packs, latest drivers for all my devices, etc. Well, it so happens now that for some unknown reason. When I maximize a window and then minimize it again, my screen refreshes. Some times it just goes on a refresh rampage until the point where I almost ge seizures! lol. Anyway, this doesn't every time I maximize/minimize a window, but it happens just about every other time. Will every application, after it refreshes, my desktop gets messed up and I have to move a window around just to re-draw the desktop. Well, that is one problem.. then next is the freezes... I begin to use an application that uses video (ie, windows media player (lateast version), RealOne RealPlayer, Adobe Premiere, Ulead Visual Studio, etc) and the application runs fine for about 5 minutes and the it freezes. I thought my video card was going bad so I went out and bought a new one (gForce2 MX 400/64MB). And guess what? Yep, same problem. Anyway after scratching my head for several days, I decided to go back to WIndows 2000 pro, and I have no problems with any of the applications or either one of the video cards.

I am sticking with Windows 2000, and using the XP CD as a coaster.
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2/10/2003 6:14:25 AM


Windows XP Home Edition freezes when I leave my PC inactive for more than a few hours. My system is an Aopen BX chipset motherboard, PIII 550 Mhz, 256MB RAM, TNT videocard, D-link wireless USB network adapter (DWL-120). It was fine with Windows 98 though.

This post was last edited by Trippletoed on Monday, February 10, 2003 at 6:21:54 AM.
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2/11/2003 7:44:11 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by Trippletoed:
    Windows XP Home Edition freezes when I leave my PC inactive for more than a few hours. My system is an Aopen BX chipset motherboard, PIII 550 Mhz, 256MB RAM, TNT videocard, D-link wireless USB network adapter (DWL-120). It was fine with Windows 98 though.




I just wanted to put my part in....I would like to start off by saying that I am sorry to hear that I am not the only one with the freezing up problem.

I have tried many things to try and figure out why my computer freezes, but I do know one thing and that is if I run a screensaver, that it will not freeze up when left unattended for an extended period of time, but if I disable the screensaver, it will lock up in a matter of minutes.

I also have noticed that if I am running MSN Explorer and trying to write an email, it freezes or when I am using the MSN IM.

I hope that someone out there will see all these posts and can come up with a common link.

Also I run the Weatherbug, and it seems that if I have it disabled and not running that my computer does not seem to freeze up as much.

Thanks
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Newbie (1 Posts)

2/15/2003 1:28:52 PM


Seems my xp pro ran great for about a year , then all of a sudden freeze , freeze , freeze ,
I reinstalled without putting sp1 update in , works great , ?? Go figure
Has this worked for anyone else ?
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~Dogg~
  User Icon beachfest

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Newbie (3 Posts)

2/17/2003 10:03:38 PM


Hi ya people! I Might have the answer...

I believe I've been having the exakt same problems as you guys. Random freeze in Win XP when idle or sometimes during operation. I never play computergames so thats not the reason. Anyways... I've been reading this forum and the remedies offered here have not been applicable on my top of the line new PC. Where talking P4 2400, 512 DDR Org... I only suspected problems with the RAM but it seemed OK after running diagnostics.

So, I think I solved it after lots and lots and lots of trying. However, I did two changes before it started to behave well so I cant tell which one actually solved this issue.

Step 1: During a thorough check of the MoBo, I realized I had the LED connectors to the IDE_LED and the SYSTEM_ON_LED and the connector to the SYSTEM_SPEAKERS, were connected the wrong way (i.e. GROUND / 5v+ where switched). Hence, I switched these to their correct connections.

Step 2: I had heard somewhere of poor IDE cables so I switched the cable for the HD to an old one I had lying around.

System has been running fine for a few days since, and before that it would freeze MANY times a day. So I believe one of these fixes did the trick Emoticon

Hope this help someone out there. If it does, plz let me know: beachfest@beachfest.cjb.net

Best regards,
BEACHFEST

P.S. Have a nice day Emoticon
  User Icon xconduct

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Newbie (3 Posts)

2/18/2003 7:57:54 AM


I have dual boot, XP and Linux.

The fact is that Linux never freezes Emoticon XP does it natuarally (even when I sneeze).

So there are no hardware problems! It is a software problem. Microsoft should spend more time testing their products instead of talking *poo*.

An operating system should be Rock Hard!!!

"Applications crash, not Operating Systems"
xconduct
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Newbie (3 Posts)

2/18/2003 7:58:23 AM


I have dual boot, XP and Linux.

The fact is that Linux never freezes Emoticon XP does it natuarally (even when I sneeze).

So there are no hardware problems! It is a software problem. Microsoft should spend more time testing their products instead of talking *poo*.

An operating system should be Rock Hard!!!

"Applications crash, not Operating Systems"
xconduct
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Newbie (3 Posts)

2/18/2003 7:58:42 AM


I have dual boot, XP and Linux.

The fact is that Linux never freezes Emoticon XP does it natuarally (even when I sneeze).

So there are no hardware problems! It is a software problem. Microsoft should spend more time testing their products instead of talking *poo*.

An operating system should be Rock Hard!!!

"Applications crash, not Operating Systems"
xconduct
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Newbie (1 Posts)

2/18/2003 4:31:28 PM


Hi guys,

I probably know a fair amount about computers (compared to your average Joe) and I noticed that xp has started freezing recently (say, the past 2 or 3 weeks). It does this about once or twice a day, at an (apparently) random time. I have an Intel Pentium4 1.5 GHz with 512 ddr/sdram, a geforce2 TI 64 mg video card and a soundblaster live 5.1 sound card. I have read the posts under this thread and have shut off my screensaver and looked through my event viewer. I have no error messages listed around the times that I have frozen. I use CPUcool to monitor my internal temp's and it tells me that my CPU is at 37 degrees when the cooling toggleis on. I'll get back to you guys if disabling the screen saver worked.
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Newbie (5 Posts)

2/19/2003 7:55:41 PM


Ok i've got the exact same problem, but i've got it on a Time notebook. Brand new. I'm usin an AMD athlon 1.4ghz, 384mb ram, 40gb harddrive. The motherboard is VIA but i agree with DanWyandt, thats not the problem. I was usin a desktop that i built myself, with an AMD XP/VIA too and that had no problems. I think it could be bad ram and here's why. It never happened before until i got rid of winamp 2.7 and installed winamp3.Winamp 3 used up a lot more memory, took longer to load, and stored alot of junk mp3 info in ram. Then the freezing thing started to happen. It eventually began to drive me crazy, so i came up with the idea to get rid of winamp3 and put back winamp 2.7 . Now it happens very seldom, but still happens, and happens when i'm doin anythin. (especially when im burnin cd's which is real annoyin!)
Of course i'd be suprised if its to do with heat cuz come on! Its a specially designed notebook, it has to have adiquit ventilation. And anyway i got a thermo monitoring program and the cpu is always around 28-35 celsius. Anyone know any good ram checkers?
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Newbie (5 Posts)

2/19/2003 7:56:02 PM


Ok i've got the exact same problem, but i've got it on a Time notebook. Brand new. I'm usin an AMD athlon 1.4ghz, 384mb ram, 40gb harddrive. The motherboard is VIA but i agree with DanWyandt, thats not the problem. I was usin a desktop that i built myself, with an AMD XP/VIA too and that had no problems. I think it could be bad ram and here's why. It never happened before until i got rid of winamp 2.7 and installed winamp3.Winamp 3 used up a lot more memory, took longer to load, and stored alot of junk mp3 info in ram. Then the freezing thing started to happen. It eventually began to drive me crazy, so i came up with the idea to get rid of winamp3 and put back winamp 2.7 . Now it happens very seldom, but still happens, and happens when i'm doin anythin. (especially when im burnin cd's which is real annoyin!)
Of course i'd be suprised if its to do with heat cuz come on! Its a specially designed notebook, it has to have adiquit ventilation. And anyway i got a thermo monitoring program and the cpu is always around 28-35 celsius. Anyone know any good ram checkers?
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Newbie (2 Posts)

2/19/2003 11:36:35 PM


I have this problem as well.

However, i THINK i have a fix.

My problem I beleive is the hard drive. It was VERY VERY VERY hot. It has only been this hot in windows XP for some reason.

I am having to go through and sort out a load of bad blocks from my hard drive becomming as hot as the sun! I burned myself on it - put it that way! I wasn't pleased! I have emailed Maxtor about it, and hopefully they will confirm this is why I was having problems.

My event log pointed towards disk errors, so I looked at the disk - glad I did! I took the hard drive out immediately and cooled it with a big fan! I might use it instead of my radiator! lol!

Hope this helps!
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Newbie (2 Posts)

2/19/2003 11:36:57 PM


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This post was last edited by mattjgalloway on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 11:38:34 PM.
  User Icon beachfest

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Newbie (3 Posts)

2/22/2003 9:40:55 PM


Hi all,
As I mentioned above, I suffered from the exact same issue as the people in the forum. I tried EVERYTHING to get it to work, but nothing helped. I tried all that is mentioned here and a heck of a lot more.

I finally concluded that it was harware dependent, but which hardware? It eventually boiled down to either the graphics card or the powersupply. IMPORTANT: windows XP never complained about the graphics card. It was reported to work fine.

I stated in my note above that I had fixed it with some stupid ideas. These were just CRAP. My real SOLLUTION was CHANGING THE GRAPHICS CARD AND THE POWERSUPPLY. Now my system IS working 100%. I cannot tell for sure if it was the graphics or powersupply that F**cked things up, but what the heck, its perfectomundo now Emoticon

Hence, my solution was graphics/powersupply although I strongly suspect it was all about graphics. I certainly hope this should help you people. This has been a most frustrating problem. There were no clules. All seemed fine. THere were NO temperature problems nowhere, nor nothing else (that was visable).

Be nice to eachother...

/ Beachfest
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2/25/2003 3:05:13 AM





    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by fogdog:
    I've been having this problem repeatedly. My windows XP freezes randomly at various times. I thought it might be a problem with the hard drive or something in it, so I reformatted the drive and reinstalled XP. Unfortunately, it is still freezing up. Oddly enough, XP freezes sometimes when sound is used or something like that and it freezes sounding like a broken record.

    PLease help, I would greatly appreciate it!






AMD is notorious for heating issues. I have 3 fans installed in my box, and still it is not enough. Frankly, I found that if I leave my box slightly open,(I know this is taboo) I do not have the freezing problem associated with overheating. If you are curious, put a thermometer in your box and watch the temperature rise! Your computer automatically shuts down when it the heat gets too high.

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Eat chocolate, be happy:)
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Newbie (4 Posts)

2/25/2003 3:07:16 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by fogdog:
    I've been having this problem repeatedly. My windows XP freezes randomly at various times. I thought it might be a problem with the hard drive or something in it, so I reformatted the drive and reinstalled XP. Unfortunately, it is still freezing up. Oddly enough, XP freezes sometimes when sound is used or something like that and it freezes sounding like a broken record.

    PLease help, I would greatly appreciate it!





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Eat chocolate, be happyEmoticon
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Newbie (4 Posts)

2/25/2003 3:16:11 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by kwah:
    Ok guys i have the sam problem with my pc. It RANDOMLY freezes in Win XP pro. It did this before and after SP1. anyway the freezing can happen when i use anything or even when the system is idle.

    Here are my hardware stats:

    CPU Info: (1-AMD Thunderbird, 1202MHz, 256KB (9% Load))
    Memory Usage: (Usage: 111/640MB (17.34%))(256 Crucial, 256 Kingston ValuRam, 128 Generic)
    Virtual Memory: (Usage: 65/2048MB (3.2%))
    Page File: (Usage: 97/1584MB (6.14%))
    Hard Disks: (Total/Free space on: C: 18.64/0.39GB (Western Digital) ¤ D: 74.53/56.26GB (Western Digital 8mb Cache)¤ E: 19.08/19.01GB(Maxtor)) All HDD are 7200RPM and NTFS
    Video card: (NVidia Vanta)
    Network Interfaces: #1(D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI Adapter (10Mb/s)) #2(NETGEAR FA311/312 PCI Adapter (100Mb/s))
    Motherboard: FIC AZ11
    Built in Sound

    Anyway i had this problem from the very beggining of having the computer. I tried reformatting and reinstalling XP at one point but it didnt help. I learned to live with it but it has gotten really annoying lately. So i just reformatted one of my disks and put 2k on it and we will see if it freezes (hasn't yet in the last 20 hours but thats not really an accomplishment cuz it could last 3 days before freezing on XP, and it could also last 5 minutes).

    I have tried removing the NIC's one by one and even changing out the ram. only thing that seemed to help in regards to ram was PC-100 as oppsed to PC-133 but i tried it so long ago i dont remeber if it caused it not to freeze or just made it more stable)

    If anyone has any or can help me out a little. please post here, email me or comtact me on AIM. THANKS!




I have an AMD T-Bird w/AZ11 and I found that the majority of the problem has to do with over heating. I put three fans in my case and still it wasn't enough to prevent freezing. Put a thermometer in your case and you will be surprized how hot it gets. Also, check your event log for system errors that have ACPI associated with them.
I am currently researching these ACPI messages. I am running AWARD 6.0 and am thinking that I need to flash my bios. If anyone has any suggestions, please reply.
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Newbie (2 Posts)

2/26/2003 3:22:38 PM


I'm joining the list.

I tried everything. Truly everything. (BIOS/IRQ/heat, new hardware, etc etc etc)

Specs:
ECS k7s5a or Abit kt7A (Both give problems)
Abit Siluro Geforce 2
512 no-name mem
Maxtor 40Gb drive
300 watt power
Sound Blaster Live valueg
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2/26/2003 4:28:55 PM


I'm joining the list.

I tried everything. Truly everything. (BIOS/IRQ/heat, new hardware, etc etc etc)

Specs:
ECS k7s5a or Abit kt7A (Both give problems)
Abit Siluro Geforce 2
512 no-name mem
Maxtor 40Gb drive
300 watt power
Sound Blaster Live valueg
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Newbie (1 Posts)

2/28/2003 9:54:18 PM


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  User Icon aries

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Newbie (1 Posts)

3/2/2003 8:03:22 PM


I have an ECS K7s5a , Athlon 2000 +, 512 Mb of SDRAM, Geforce4 and an ethernet card (realtek family). I'm running windows xp pro. Of course, I had some freezing problems. At first I thought it could be some overheating problem but my CPU temp was about 50° Celsius what is quite reasonable I think. Then I thought it could be a bad memory stick problem and, actually, I just plugged my memory stick in the other slot (from sdr1 to sdr2, see the user's guide) and since I've never had any freezing probs anymore.

I can't explain this, but it worked...

This post was last edited by aries on Monday, March 03, 2003 at 11:16:01 AM.
  User Icon tempuser

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Newbie (1 Posts)

3/7/2003 10:21:31 PM


Hi All,
You may have seen this and discounted it already, but sometime ago I had a problem which turned out to be related to large video files. I guess this would apply to any type of file.

The problem would cause the PC to jump to 100% CPU usage. You could actually stil do things, but it would take 10-20 seconds before any action occured (ie a fimple click would take 10-20 seconds). You can check this by opening task manager (right click in task bar) and looking at the CPU usage of each process. Of course if your computer is REALLY hung (ie nothing ever happens) then this is probably not your problem.

From memory it is related to corrupt files (or files that XP thinks are corrupt) that XP is trying to do something with because of file associations. For example - its trying to figure out the resolution etc of a video to put in explorer or any kind of file browser (open file, save file etc).

The solution to this problem was to open the registry and delete the following key:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\.avi\shellex\PropertyHandler

Of course if your problem is related to mpg files or jpg files or mp3 files then replace avi with the appropriate file extension.

Probably old news - but it might help some people.
  User Icon sorted

Newbie (4 Posts)
Newbie (4 Posts)

3/11/2003 7:02:06 AM


OK....

Since installing the follwing,

K75SA Mobo, AMD Athlon 2100XP Proc, Linksys Wireless Cable Router & USB Adapter.

Now XP freezes my PC totally involutarily... To the point I cannot get it to resrespond to ALT+CTRL+DEL and the mouse doesnt move, the only way to get it back is to do a cold reboot of the system. I can be doing anything from just checking mail, loggomg in, or surfing and the hang just kicks in, there is no ryhme or reason to it at all, nothing even shows in the event viewer to suggest a problem in either the system log or

Here is the specs.

OS:Windows XP Professional (SP1)
MainBoard: ECS K7S5A ([url]http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a.html[/url])
Processor: 2100 AMD Athlon XP
Video: Nvidia tnt2 64 video card (latest drivers)
Sound: Sound Blaster Live Platinum 5.1 (latest drivers)
Memory: 2x256MB (unbranded) PC100 RAM

I am running 2 x 8mm fans, inside the case, one at the top one at the bottom, round IDE cables (x4) throughout the case and all HDD's are contained within ICYdock IDE coolers such as these...



...apart from one that has a fan attached top the bottom.... and thats just a data drive.

PCI wise, I have the grahpics card as mentioned above in the AGP slot, then PCI downward as so..

pci 1 : Soundblaster live
pci 2 : SCSI Card (cant recall the make)
pci 3 : Colling Exhaust fan
pci 4 : Empty (always has been)
pci 5 : IDE Expansion Card

I cannot see this is an XP problem as I have formatted twice, and re-installed, plus I ran XP for about a year before making the above mentioned upgrades, I cannot see this is a heating issue as I have more than enough cooling going on including a Coolermaster DP5-6J31C CPU Cooler on the proc.([url]http://www.coolermaster.com/products/cpucooler/fcpga/cp5-6j31c-a4.html[/url])

I am thinking about dual booting between 2000 and XP to see if 2000 can hold up better than XP, which incidentally are both 100 legal Emoticon...

Apart from that any suggestions, I dont want to have to spend yet more money buying different equipment to swap out and test with, just to find that its something completely stupid...

Thanks
  User Icon sorted

Newbie (4 Posts)
Newbie (4 Posts)

3/11/2003 7:02:23 AM


OK....

Since installing the follwing,

K75SA Mobo, AMD Athlon 2100XP Proc, Linksys Wireless Cable Router & USB Adapter.

Now XP freezes my PC totally involutarily... To the point I cannot get it to resrespond to ALT+CTRL+DEL and the mouse doesnt move, the only way to get it back is to do a cold reboot of the system. I can be doing anything from just checking mail, loggomg in, or surfing and the hang just kicks in, there is no ryhme or reason to it at all, nothing even shows in the event viewer to suggest a problem in either the system log or

Here is the specs.

OS:Windows XP Professional (SP1)
MainBoard: ECS K7S5A ([url]http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a.html[/url])
Processor: 2100 AMD Athlon XP
Video: Nvidia tnt2 64 video card (latest drivers)
Sound: Sound Blaster Live Platinum 5.1 (latest drivers)
Memory: 2x256MB (unbranded) PC100 RAM

I am running 2 x 8mm fans, inside the case, one at the top one at the bottom, round IDE cables (x4) throughout the case and all HDD's are contained within ICYdock IDE coolers such as these...



...apart from one that has a fan attached top the bottom.... and thats just a data drive.

PCI wise, I have the grahpics card as mentioned above in the AGP slot, then PCI downward as so..

pci 1 : Soundblaster live
pci 2 : SCSI Card (cant recall the make)
pci 3 : Colling Exhaust fan
pci 4 : Empty (always has been)
pci 5 : IDE Expansion Card

I cannot see this is an XP problem as I have formatted twice, and re-installed, plus I ran XP for about a year before making the above mentioned upgrades, I cannot see this is a heating issue as I have more than enough cooling going on including a Coolermaster DP5-6J31C CPU Cooler on the proc.([url]http://www.coolermaster.com/products/cpucooler/fcpga/cp5-6j31c-a4.html[/url])

I am thinking about dual booting between 2000 and XP to see if 2000 can hold up better than XP, which incidentally are both 100 legal Emoticon...

Apart from that any suggestions, I dont want to have to spend yet more money buying different equipment to swap out and test with, just to find that its something completely stupid...

Thanks
  User Icon sorted

Newbie (4 Posts)
Newbie (4 Posts)

3/11/2003 7:02:39 AM


OK....

Since installing the follwing,

K75SA Mobo, AMD Athlon 2100XP Proc, Linksys Wireless Cable Router & USB Adapter.

Now XP freezes my PC totally involutarily... To the point I cannot get it to resrespond to ALT+CTRL+DEL and the mouse doesnt move, the only way to get it back is to do a cold reboot of the system. I can be doing anything from just checking mail, loggomg in, or surfing and the hang just kicks in, there is no ryhme or reason to it at all, nothing even shows in the event viewer to suggest a problem in either the system log or

Here is the specs.

OS:Windows XP Professional (SP1)
MainBoard: ECS K7S5A ([url]http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a.html[/url])
Processor: 2100 AMD Athlon XP
Video: Nvidia tnt2 64 video card (latest drivers)
Sound: Sound Blaster Live Platinum 5.1 (latest drivers)
Memory: 2x256MB (unbranded) PC100 RAM

I am running 2 x 8mm fans, inside the case, one at the top one at the bottom, round IDE cables (x4) throughout the case and all HDD's are contained within ICYdock IDE coolers such as these...



...apart from one that has a fan attached top the bottom.... and thats just a data drive.

PCI wise, I have the grahpics card as mentioned above in the AGP slot, then PCI downward as so..

pci 1 : Soundblaster live
pci 2 : SCSI Card (cant recall the make)
pci 3 : Colling Exhaust fan
pci 4 : Empty (always has been)
pci 5 : IDE Expansion Card

I cannot see this is an XP problem as I have formatted twice, and re-installed, plus I ran XP for about a year before making the above mentioned upgrades, I cannot see this is a heating issue as I have more than enough cooling going on including a Coolermaster DP5-6J31C CPU Cooler on the proc.([url]http://www.coolermaster.com/products/cpucooler/fcpga/cp5-6j31c-a4.html[/url])

I am thinking about dual booting between 2000 and XP to see if 2000 can hold up better than XP, which incidentally are both 100 legal Emoticon...

Apart from that any suggestions, I dont want to have to spend yet more money buying different equipment to swap out and test with, just to find that its something completely stupid...

Thanks
  User Icon sorted

Newbie (4 Posts)
Newbie (4 Posts)

3/11/2003 7:05:24 AM


Ok....

Before jumping on the newbie for posting three times....

This BBS comes up with runtime errors on posting, I am far from a BSB noob, but if the owner of this wonderfull BBS I have found today sorted that problem out trhen i would not have tried more than once to post my story Emoticon
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Newbie (5 Posts)
Newbie (5 Posts)

3/11/2003 5:22:06 PM


Hmmm, looks like we're going about solving this problem all wrong. I've got the same problem but Im using a notebook. Athlon/via chip set k6 processor, 1.4ghz. Seems everyone who has this problem has an Athlon processor. I haven't seen one post about an Intel , or Duron processor. So the problem is with the processor. If anyone could get a message to someone who built these processors then we might get a solution. Cuz damn it this problem is annoying!
  User Icon redraider

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Newbie (3 Posts)

3/13/2003 2:26:01 AM


ok, I've got an Athlon2100+, Soyo Ultra KT333 mobo, geforce4 ti4200 video, 768 mb pc2100, win xp SP1.

I recently changed some things in my computer, mainly using it as a workstation instead of a server.
So, I took out a hard drive and formatted to start over. Well, ever since then I've frozen every time I access media from a partition other than the one the OS is on.
So, basically if I play videos or MP3's from a second drive, or even from a second partition of the same drive, it will freeze. Makes me think it's something with VIA, so I've tried multiple sets of drivers, etc... and nothing seems to work! any advice?
  User Icon redraider

Newbie (3 Posts)
Newbie (3 Posts)

3/13/2003 2:26:20 AM


ok, I've got an Athlon2100+, Soyo Ultra KT333 mobo, geforce4 ti4200 video, 768 mb pc2100, win xp SP1.

I recently changed some things in my computer, mainly using it as a workstation instead of a server.
So, I took out a hard drive and formatted to start over. Well, ever since then I've frozen every time I access media from a partition other than the one the OS is on.
So, basically if I play videos or MP3's from a second drive, or even from a second partition of the same drive, it will freeze. Makes me think it's something with VIA, so I've tried multiple sets of drivers, etc... and nothing seems to work! any advice?
  User Icon beachfest

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Newbie (3 Posts)

3/13/2003 3:53:23 PM


Hi People,
Sorry for my crap advice earlier. I have now tried just about everything. Changed it all. I bought the following items new and ALL except the case (excluding power supply) has been exchanged.

POWER: 400 W (Came with new case)
CPU: Intel P4 2,4 GHz
MoBo: Asus P4PE ++
RAM: NANYA 512 MB 333 DDR
GPU: NVIDIA on Creative

I have tried with many different HD and I have tried to strip the system to its base components.

So, the five items above have been exchanged for new ones. Nevertheless my system continues to freeze/hang. Mostly by just freezing screen. There is no possibility to control the system at this stage. I must reboot. Windows XP report NO ERRORS. The "event manager" has no complaints and all hardware (when they were installed) had no conflicts or problems whatsoever with drivers. They all seem to work fine.

I have passed through 4 Graphics cards to eliminate that source. I am currently on my third Power Supply. The second identical CPU and MoBo. The first RAM was OEM (no name) but that was changed to current NANYA original. Hence, all core components have been switched. However the system will still freeze.

I should emphasize it is NOT due to heat. At least not according to any built in measurements. They report normal operating temperatures of 35-40 Deg Celcius.

And to dissapoint the post earlier that this would only concern AMD processors. That is not the case. I am now on my second Intel CPU with the same problems occuring. I now doupt the CPU beeing involved at all.

Anyways. That was just a status report. If I solve it you guys will be the first to know.

And please keep trying to solve this bloody annoying issue.

Be well...
  User Icon redraider

Newbie (3 Posts)
Newbie (3 Posts)

3/13/2003 10:53:31 PM


ok, so I took out my Ti4200 and put in my Mx440 and things seem to be working fine.

Has anyone given thought to the possibility of this being a monitor problem?
That's one of the things that crossed my mind...
  User Icon Zero-X

Newbie (5 Posts)
Newbie (5 Posts)

3/14/2003 1:26:34 PM


Monitor problem? Thats an idea but the monitor doesnt send much data to the pc, apart from its model number and make so it really makes no difference what monitor is connected. Then again its worth a try. I don't think thats the problem cuz im usin a tft lcd screen on a laptop. Im still convinced its over heating or bad RAM though.
  User Icon garrity

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

3/15/2003 2:37:41 PM


I have the freezing problem too. What I discovered on mine was when my telephone rings, XP
freezes and I must reboot. If I disable the modem, no more freezing. I've tested it several times
to be sure, same every time. I run multiple hard drives, and while using ME on another drive
with the same modem, all is ok. The modem is Actiontec Call Waiting , internal, pci, dial-up
connection.
  User Icon paulhadley

Newbie (32 Posts)
Newbie (32 Posts)

3/17/2003 11:27:29 AM


An Urgent Question Regarding Windows XP Professional Freezing Issues,

Mine freezes too, but usually the mouse just jumps across the screen. Like, for example, today I was moving my mouse cursor around and, just out of the blue, the mouse cursor jumped from the left corner of the screen to the right corner on the other side of the screen. Is this because my drivers for my mouse are incorrect? Sometimes it also happens with the whole computer display, and then comes back to life after about 5-10 seconds of freezing up. If does this often, and is very annoying to have to put up with. Do I need to reinstall drivers for my mouse, or is it something to do with the main computer itself, and not the mouse at all?

I have:

256mb SDRAM (top quality)
Pentium 3 Processor (About 4-5 years old)
Windows XP Professional (2002 Edition)
Microsoft Optical Wheelmouse (The Laser One)
A Basic Hotkey Keyboard
17-inch monitor
EPSON Stylus Color 640 (works fine)
Mustek 600CU Scanner (Recently fixed driver problems)

Any ideas anyone?
Help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanking you in advance,
Paul Hadley - Windows XP Professional Edition User
  User Icon Zero-X

Newbie (5 Posts)
Newbie (5 Posts)

3/17/2003 5:38:03 PM


Hey Guys,
Ok I've just contacted Time Computers about this problem, and I'm waiting for a reply. Im now convinced its not heat either, but lets see what time says. I'll let you know what they say when they respond. Im gonna try messin with my modem to see if that solves it like it did for garrity. Its got nothin to do with any of the following so ... hard drive, processor, graphics cards, ram or motherboard. What about network cards?
  User Icon BFG

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

3/18/2003 4:09:55 PM


Hi guys.

I've got a K7TTurbo MB and a 1800XP Athlon - and you've guessed it - I have been having the same lock-up problems as you guys - however I've been silently reading this post and not replying until I'd tried as many solutions as possible meself.

So far I've:
Done the minimalist thing & taken any non-essential cards out & it still crashed
Bought Crucial RAM (it was a good buy) although it still crashed
REd Hat Linux 8 and....it crashed
New PSU (400W) and it still crashed
Latency settings for memory in the BIOS - and you've guessed it - it crashed.....

Well - I was officially getting to the end of my tether and my computer was about to take a flying lesson out of the nearest window - but then I realised - my MB supplied the Athlon with 1.5V (Default setting) when it requires 1.75 to be stable. This is an easy setting to change as well - so give it a go. Haven't had any sign of XP freezing on me yet (touch wood!!) Emoticon

Thought this might be useful to you guys if you're still having problems. Keep up the good work posting to forums guys! Without all the posts like the ones above I might not have narrowed it down to this for a while - appreciated. Emoticon

Regards,

BFG.
  User Icon NEVERwinter

Newbie (3 Posts)
Newbie (3 Posts)

4/1/2003 3:18:32 PM


gawd.. I've been on 4 forums looking for a solution of this similar problem:

Mine:
EPoX 8RDA
1700+ XP @ 2100+, temp 42-46C
Standard 2x256MB DDR2700
Radeon 8500LE @ 283/283
Standard 350w PSU
Seagate 80GB 7200RPM 8MB
Lite-On 52x24x52 CDRW
Lite-On 16x DVD
56K modem external
Turtle Beach St.Cruz
WinXP Pro SP1

all other settings are the same as you, except:
- ATI Catalyst 3.2
- TBSC 4161
- Dx9.0

Problem:
WinXP froze on random time, it will always loop any sound that is being played (sometimes it just took 3 minutes, sometimes it took 4 hrs to wait for the crash).
On random occasion, it only froze the taskbar.. all running programs seems working fine. I can save my works, and then pressing ctrl+alt+del to reboot, but it doesn't respond.
After rebooting, it seems those "saved" works are actually not saved and some programs lost its settings, such as:
- Opera 7.x won't run
- Opera 6.x lost it's bookmarks, history and windows setting
- MSIE lost it's URL history
- MSoffice opens those "saved" files as recovered docs
- Winamp lost it's last playlist
- mIRC (with script) lost it's scripts settings
- mIRC (plain) lost the general setting
- GetRight can't resume the download that is broken during the crash.
- Sometimes Windows gave error message like these:
-> Unknown Hard Error
-> The memory address at blabla1xblabla2 could not be accessed, the program is terminated.
Note that this problem is also happens when I am offline.

I tried to reinstall a couple of times.
on 1st install, everything is running fine for about three days, and yes I noticed that this problems is started since I got a connection.

2nd install, I didn't overeclock everything, Didn't run Windows update, rollback to Cat3.1, no MSoffice, using nForce sound. Problem appears.

3rd install, I underclock my system, didn't run windows update, rollback to Cat2.5, Dx8.1, and didn't install soundcard. Problem still appears.

I am suspecting something on the modem/driver because I believe this doesnt happen if I don't install the modem in the first time.
  User Icon NEVERwinter

Newbie (3 Posts)
Newbie (3 Posts)

4/1/2003 3:19:50 PM


gawd.. I've been on 4 forums looking for a solution of this similar problem:

Mine:
EPoX 8RDA
1700+ XP @ 2100+, temp 42-46C
Standard 2x256MB DDR2700
Radeon 8500LE @ 283/283
Standard 350w PSU
Seagate 80GB 7200RPM 8MB
Lite-On 52x24x52 CDRW
Lite-On 16x DVD
56K modem external
Turtle Beach St.Cruz
WinXP Pro SP1

all other settings are the same as you, except:
- ATI Catalyst 3.2
- TBSC 4161
- Dx9.0

Problem:
WinXP froze on random time, it will always loop any sound that is being played (sometimes it just took 3 minutes, sometimes it took 4 hrs to wait for the crash).
On random occasion, it only froze the taskbar.. all running programs seems working fine. I can save my works, and then pressing ctrl+alt+del to reboot, but it doesn't respond.
After rebooting, it seems those "saved" works are actually not saved and some programs lost its settings, such as:
- Opera 7.x won't run
- Opera 6.x lost it's bookmarks, history and windows setting
- MSIE lost it's URL history
- MSoffice opens those "saved" files as recovered docs
- Winamp lost it's last playlist
- mIRC (with script) lost it's scripts settings
- mIRC (plain) lost the general setting
- GetRight can't resume the download that is broken during the crash.
- Sometimes Windows gave error message like these:
-> Unknown Hard Error
-> The memory address at blabla1xblabla2 could not be accessed, the program is terminated.
Note that this problem is also happens when I am offline.

I tried to reinstall a couple of times.
on 1st install, everything is running fine for about three days, and yes I noticed that this problems is started since I got a connection.

2nd install, I didn't overeclock everything, Didn't run Windows update, rollback to Cat3.1, no MSoffice, using nForce sound. Problem appears.

3rd install, I underclock my system, didn't run windows update, rollback to Cat2.5, Dx8.1, and didn't install soundcard. Problem still appears.

I am suspecting something on the modem/driver because I believe this doesnt happen if I don't install the modem in the first time.
  User Icon NEVERwinter

Newbie (3 Posts)
Newbie (3 Posts)

4/1/2003 3:21:28 PM


gawd.. I've been on 4 forums looking for a solution of this similar problem:

Mine:
EPoX 8RDA
1700+ XP @ 2100+, temp 42-46C
Standard 2x256MB DDR2700
Radeon 8500LE @ 283/283
Standard 350w PSU
Seagate 80GB 7200RPM 8MB
Lite-On 52x24x52 CDRW
Lite-On 16x DVD
56K modem external
Turtle Beach St.Cruz
WinXP Pro SP1

all other settings are the same as you, except:
- ATI Catalyst 3.2
- TBSC 4161
- Dx9.0

Problem:
WinXP froze on random time, it will always loop any sound that is being played (sometimes it just took 3 minutes, sometimes it took 4 hrs to wait for the crash).
On random occasion, it only froze the taskbar.. all running programs seems working fine. I can save my works, and then pressing ctrl+alt+del to reboot, but it doesn't respond.
After rebooting, it seems those "saved" works are actually not saved and some programs lost its settings, such as:
- Opera 7.x won't run
- Opera 6.x lost it's bookmarks, history and windows setting
- MSIE lost it's URL history
- MSoffice opens those "saved" files as recovered docs
- Winamp lost it's last playlist
- mIRC (with script) lost it's scripts settings
- mIRC (plain) lost the general setting
- GetRight can't resume the download that is broken during the crash.
- Sometimes Windows gave error message like these:
-> Unknown Hard Error
-> The memory address at blabla1xblabla2 could not be accessed, the program is terminated.
Note that this problem is also happens when I am offline.

I tried to reinstall a couple of times.
on 1st install, everything is running fine for about three days, and yes I noticed that this problems is started since I got a connection.

2nd install, I didn't overeclock everything, Didn't run Windows update, rollback to Cat3.1, no MSoffice, using nForce sound. Problem appears.

3rd install, I underclock my system, didn't run windows update, rollback to Cat2.5, Dx8.1, and didn't install soundcard. Problem still appears.

I am suspecting something on the modem/driver because I believe this doesnt happen if I don't install the modem in the first time.
  User Icon probatu

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

4/10/2003 3:13:26 PM


Hello there,

Try this:


Open up Register Editor by running "regedit" command. Click on "Edit" and
select "Find". Copy and paste FB7199AB-79BF-11D2-8D94-0000F875C541 onto the
"Find what" box and click on "Find Next". Once found, click on the plus sign
in front of it and you will find InProc32 and LocalServer32. Select one of
them then right click on default under the name column and select "modify",
then simply delete what's in the Value Data box. Repeat for the other.

Then get rid of messenger.Later you can install the new messenger.

My problems are solved.

greets probatu


----------------------------------------------
win Xp pro +sp1
duron1200@1320
256mb
etc.etc.
  User Icon yotone

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

4/28/2003 1:13:26 AM


i just surfed on here with the same problem. i tried lowering the sound acceleration and its been fine since*knock on wood*. let me know if it helps
  User Icon driverdude

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

4/28/2003 3:11:44 PM


drivers...drivers...drivers....

OS: XP Pro
CPU: AMD 1.2Ghz
MOBO: Asus A7A166
RAM: 256Mb
HD: Maxtor 40Gb ATA100
VC: ATI 8500 DV All in Wonder

I was experiencing freeze ups daily, Now, none, for 2 months straight.
I went as far as backing up all data to tape and reinstalling the operating system. Did not work, got half way through reinstalling apps and it started to freeze.
Now, I have been following ATI's updated drivers for a year, finally installed catalyst 3 drivers as per ATI instructions. At the same time installed most up to date drivers for 3com NIC,
solved everything. Can't tell you if it was the NIC drivers or ATI drivers, but all is well.

driverdude out....Emoticon
  User Icon TAB

Newbie (4 Posts)
Newbie (4 Posts)

4/29/2003 1:04:40 AM


This fix may not solve everyone's problem, but it sure solved mine.

Not long after getting my last computer I had freeze-up problems. A Gateway rep. told me that Windows XP does not always handle hibernation very well, and also that the computer does not have to go into hibernation before the freeze-up occurs. I made the recommended changes and have not had a single problem since.

Go to Control Panel / Power Options and set "Turn off hard disks" to Never. Also set "System Standby" to Never. Don't forget to click "Apply." Then go to the hibernation tab and un-check the hibernation option. Click "Apply." Reboot.

TAB
  User Icon Hammerhead1st

Newbie (7 Posts)
Newbie (7 Posts)

5/21/2003 7:31:12 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by TAB:
    This fix may not solve everyone's problem, but it sure solved mine.

    Not long after getting my last computer I had freeze-up problems. A Gateway rep. told me that Windows XP does not always handle hibernation very well, and also that the computer does not have to go into hibernation before the freeze-up occurs. I made the recommended changes and have not had a single problem since.

    Go to Control Panel / Power Options and set "Turn off hard disks" to Never. Also set "System Standby" to Never. Don't forget to click "Apply." Then go to the hibernation tab and un-check the hibernation option. Click "Apply." Reboot.

    TAB





Hi folks. I've been lurking in about 10 forums looking for help to my problem with intermittent random freezing. I bought my Compaq new from Wal-Mart a year ago and had no problems until recently. I did everything else as I see folks did here. I reformatted, reinstalled, added one thing at a time, no luck. Finally located my BIOS update and implemented it, seemed to help a little, but I still have a problem with intermittent random freezing. Here is my system info for your viewing pleasure. I am running a Compaq Presario 5400 desktop with Intel P4 and 256mb RAM. The rest is below:

********************
* System Summary *
********************

Processor: GenuineIntel Family 15 Model 1 1.5 GHz Stepping 2
Math Support: Present
BIOS: COMPAQ - 20010906 686Y2 v 3.04, 04/12/02
Bus Type: PCI, ISA, USB
Ports: 1 Parallel, 3 Serial
Memory: 256 MB (56% Utilized)
Floppy Disks: 1.44 MB
Hard Disks: 37.27 GB
Multimedia: Sound, CD-ROM
Video: 800 x 600 in 64K Colors, NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 Ver. 6.13

< Operating System >
Windows: 5.1 (Build 2600)
Net Clients:
Microsoft Terminal Services
Microsoft Windows Network
Web Client Network

*********************
* Display Summary *
*********************

Monitor: Default Monitor
Video Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 Ver. 6.13
Resolution: 800 x 600 in 64K Colors

< Device Information >
Driver Version: 6.13
Technology: Raster display

< Device Characteristics >
Physical Width in Millimeters: 320
Physical Height in Millimeters: 240
Width in Pixels: 800
Height in Pixels: 600
Pixels per Horizontal Logical Inch: 96
Pixels per Vertical Logical Inch: 96
Color Bits per Pixel: 16
Color Planes per Pixel: 1
Brushes: Unlimited
Pens: 4294967295
Fonts: 0
System Colors: 65536
Relative Pixel Width: 36
Relative Pixel Height: 36
Relative Pixel Diagonal Width: 51

< Clipping Capabilities >
Can Clip Output to Rectangle: Yes
Can Clip Output to Region: No

< Raster Capabilities >
Capable of Transferring Bitmaps: Yes
Supports Bitmaps Larger than 64K: Yes
Supports DIBs: Yes
DIBs on Device Surface: Yes
Flood Fills: Yes
Supports Windows 2.0: Yes
Stretch/Compress Bitmaps: Yes
Stretch/Compress DIBs: Yes
Requires Banding Support: No
Palette-Based Device: No
Capable of Scaling: No

< Curve Capabilities >
Can Draw Circles: Yes
Can Draw Pie Wedges: Yes
Can Draw Chord Arcs: Yes
Can Draw Ellipses: Yes
Can Draw Wide Borders: Yes
Can Draw Styled Borders: Yes
Can Draw Wide, Styled Borders: Yes
Can Draw Interiors: Yes
Can Draw Rounded Rectangles: Yes

< Line Capabilities >
Can Draw a Polyline: Yes
Can Draw a Marker: Yes
Can Draw a Polymarker: Yes
Can Draw a Wide Line: Yes
Can Draw a Styled Line: Yes
Can Draw a Wide, Styled Line: Yes
Can Draw Interiors: Yes

< Polygonal Capabilities >
  User Icon Hammerhead1st

Newbie (7 Posts)
Newbie (7 Posts)

5/22/2003 9:33:22 PM


Just posting to let you know that my problem might be solved, still testing. I updated my OLD BIOS and found some newer vid drivers for my vid card. So far, it's a lil slow but hasn't stalled yet. Here's hoping!!!...
  User Icon Hammerhead1st

Newbie (7 Posts)
Newbie (7 Posts)

5/26/2003 5:58:44 PM


Guess things didn't get fixed after all. tried to play a couple of simple games and it froze rght up intermittently again. What a major bummer
  User Icon Sisyphus

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

5/28/2003 1:26:16 PM


Thank you all for your suggestions. Windows XP had been freezing up on me for several months and you all gave me great ideas for troubleshooting the root cause of the problem.

What seems to have finally solved my problem was to completely disassemble the system down to a minimal configuration (mother board and video card), reset the BIOS to its default settings, and then add each component back in one at a time.

As needed, I set the appropriate BIOS parameters as I added each component. The motherboard manual turned out to be invaluable in explaining all the various BIOS parameters.

I can't give you a root cause explanation for the failures, but my system has been running without hangs for days now.

Good luck to you all!
  User Icon igs2x

Newbie (14 Posts)
Newbie (14 Posts)

5/28/2003 3:00:42 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by fogdog:
    I've been having this problem repeatedly. My windows XP freezes randomly at various times. I thought it might be a problem with the hard drive or something in it, so I reformatted the drive and reinstalled XP. Unfortunately, it is still freezing up. Oddly enough, XP freezes sometimes when sound is used or something like that and it freezes sounding like a broken record.

    PLease help, I would greatly appreciate it!






fogdog you never told us what kind of motherboard and sound card you are using.
we can' only generalize for you unless its fixed already with a different sound card.
  User Icon lukexkx

Newbie (2 Posts)
Newbie (2 Posts)

5/30/2003 5:05:24 PM


hello,

I tried installing XP pro on my friend's Thinkpad iSeries 1400, only to find that it freezes repeatedly. I then went and found out that this is because of a compatibility with the BIOS, so I updated the BIOS to the newest one, which is supposed to work with XP, and the problem didn't go away. Then I did a reinstall of XP (after the BIOS was updated), and the problem is still there. Right now the computer is basically unusable, freezing every ten minutes or so. The error message in the event viewer has always been the same:

AMLI: ACPI BIOS is attempting to read from an illegal IO port address
(0x71), which lies in the 0x70 - 0x71 protected address range. This could
lead to system instability. Please contact your system vendor for
technical assistance.

I can't figure out why this problem still exists even after I updated the BIOS and reinstalled XP. Can anyone give me any advice on this? I have on idea what else to do.

thanks!
  User Icon igs2x

Newbie (14 Posts)
Newbie (14 Posts)

5/31/2003 12:22:24 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by lukexkx:
    hello,

    I tried installing XP pro on my friend's Thinkpad iSeries 1400, only to find that it freezes repeatedly. I then went and found out that this is because of a compatibility with the BIOS, so I updated the BIOS to the newest one, which is supposed to work with XP, and the problem didn't go away. Then I did a reinstall of XP (after the BIOS was updated), and the problem is still there. Right now the computer is basically unusable, freezing every ten minutes or so. The error message in the event viewer has always been the same:

    AMLI: ACPI BIOS is attempting to read from an illegal IO port address
    (0x71), which lies in the 0x70 - 0x71 protected address range. This could
    lead to system instability. Please contact your system vendor for
    technical assistance.

    I can't figure out why this problem still exists even after I updated the BIOS and reinstalled XP. Can anyone give me any advice on this? I have on idea what else to do.

    thanks!




There are two things you can try: (use APM in power settings later)

Fresh Install with no ACPI. When setup is loading, the blue screen will ask if you have any raid devices, and to press F6. When it does that, press and hold F7. No ACPI will be installed.

or

Press F5 after the first screen asking if you have raid devices to install (will ask at
bottom of screen to press F6) keep pressing F5 to second screen where it will ask to press F2 for recovery console. Keep holding F5 and should get another screen where it will say that it cannot recognize type of pc. There you have two choices: standard pc and other. Select standard and no ACPI will be installed.
  User Icon zuban

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

6/10/2003 1:31:07 AM


hi all,
i have similar problem listed above; I have installed Win XP to my ThinkPad 390E and having problems, that Windows is sometimes slowing (CPU utilization 100%, almost 90% in Privileged Mode), and finally freezes. I think it can have something with ACPI and CPU cooling. I'd like to solve this problem in another way than disabling ACPI.
z.
  User Icon lukexkx

Newbie (2 Posts)
Newbie (2 Posts)

6/17/2003 1:04:32 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by igs2x:
      QUOTE:

      Originally Posted by lukexkx:
      hello,

      I tried installing XP pro on my friend's Thinkpad iSeries 1400, only to find that it freezes repeatedly. I then went and found out that this is because of a compatibility with the BIOS, so I updated the BIOS to the newest one, which is supposed to work with XP, and the problem didn't go away. Then I did a reinstall of XP (after the BIOS was updated), and the problem is still there. Right now the computer is basically unusable, freezing every ten minutes or so. The error message in the event viewer has always been the same:

      AMLI: ACPI BIOS is attempting to read from an illegal IO port address
      (0x71), which lies in the 0x70 - 0x71 protected address range. This could
      lead to system instability. Please contact your system vendor for
      technical assistance.

      I can't figure out why this problem still exists even after I updated the BIOS and reinstalled XP. Can anyone give me any advice on this? I have on idea what else to do.

      thanks!




    There are two things you can try: (use APM in power settings later)

    Fresh Install with no ACPI. When setup is loading, the blue screen will ask if you have any raid devices, and to press F6. When it does that, press and hold F7. No ACPI will be installed.

    or

    Press F5 after the first screen asking if you have raid devices to install (will ask at
    bottom of screen to press F6) keep pressing F5 to second screen where it will ask to press F2 for recovery console. Keep holding F5 and should get another screen where it will say that it cannot recognize type of pc. There you have two choices: standard pc and other. Select standard and no ACPI will be installed.




Thank you! Now it works perfectly!
  User Icon Jhannon

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

6/20/2003 3:12:04 PM


Hiya all Emoticon

I'm having an issue with freezing on my secondary computer: Win XP/AMD Athlon 2100+/Asus A7V266-E/768 MB RAM/ATI 9500 Pro/Soundblaster Live!

The weird thing is that I have my primary computer running many of the same components, and I've never seen this problem. The main difference between the two boxes is my main box is Nvidia powered and my secondary box is ATI powered.

My secondary box will freeze while running various apps, including Asheron's Call (3D video game), IE, and sometimes freezes from the desktop. I've tried multiple reformats, disk checks, driver updates, and virus checks...to no avail. I was all set to purchase a new HDD until I found this board and read this thread Emoticon I will try some of the solutions here and see how it goes...<!--Sig-->
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If brute force doesn't work, you aren't using enough...<!--/Sig-->

This post was last edited by Jhannon on Friday, June 20, 2003 at 3:16:05 PM.
  User Icon Ink

Newbie (1 Posts)
Newbie (1 Posts)

6/22/2003 5:33:15 PM


Hello, i've been having problems much like these. I've got a NVidia Geforce 4 4200 Ti 8x, onboard sound (i think its like a Sis 7018 or something), my motherboard is an ECS K7SEM, an AMD Athlon 2100+ processor, 512 MB of Ram, and a 20 Gb hard drive. It freezes mostly when something is going on like music, playing a game (such as Everquest, half-life, games like that.) I know it can't be the sound because i tried disabling the sound both in device manager and in BIOS. I've tried messing with a few settings in BIOS (such as Memory timings) with no luck.

Does anyone have any idea on what to do?

Thanks
  User Icon ka2mxh

Newbie (3 Posts)
Newbie (3 Posts)

7/17/2003 3:15:21 AM


My problem was the cd-rw 'burner' (PCRW-804) that was faulting. It served me well for about three years. After trouble shooting just about 'all' the threads here, I started to 'unplug' or physically remove hardware. BINGO! There is no one problem or cure for the 'hang'. So, good luck with each of your's. Have a plan and stick to it. You'll get it. BTW: I have had no problems with my AMD 1-gig cpu and VIA. -Thanks to the best forum on the net. -ka2mxh
  User Icon Hammerhead1st

Newbie (7 Posts)
Newbie (7 Posts)

8/6/2003 7:11:24 PM


Still freezing up here, tried everything EXCEPT pulling the cdrw out. Different hard drive did NOT make the difference. (I have an 8 gig spare I used here) Updated BIOS, went thru EVERY driver in the system looking for updates, manually searched the Windows website, switched off between my NVidia and ATI vid cards, disabled sound, formatted and reinstalled win XP. Outa luck here, I'm afraid. I will be trying the CDRW next. Thanks for all of the suggestions! You all keep writing, I'll keep trying!!
  User Icon Hammerhead1st

Newbie (7 Posts)
Newbie (7 Posts)

8/6/2003 7:12:12 PM


Still freezing up here, tried everything EXCEPT pulling the cdrw out. Different hard drive did NOT make the difference. (I have an 8 gig spare I used here) Updated BIOS, went thru EVERY driver in the system looking for updates, manually searched the Windows website, switched off between my NVidia and ATI vid cards, disabled sound, formatted and reinstalled win XP. Outa luck here, I'm afraid. I will be trying the CDRW next. Thanks for all of the suggestions! You all keep writing, Emoticon I'll keep trying!!
  User Icon Hammerhead1st

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Newbie (7 Posts)

8/6/2003 7:24:50 PM


Sorry, I didn't mean to post twice
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It's not outa gas, man, I just put in 10 cents 2 days ago!
  User Icon 4-PLAY

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Newbie (4 Posts)

8/23/2003 1:51:05 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by fogdog:
    I've been having this problem repeatedly. My windows XP freezes randomly at various times. I thought it might be a problem with the hard drive or something in it, so I reformatted the drive and reinstalled XP. Unfortunately, it is still freezing up. Oddly enough, XP freezes sometimes when sound is used or something like that and it freezes sounding like a broken record.

    PLease help, I would greatly appreciate it!






Mines doing same thing, i ran event viewer and this is what i got, but not sure if its the problem!

1st Message)

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Cdrom
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7
Date: 8/22/2004
Time: 2:56:13 AM
User: N/A
Computer: NONE-7DB9Y2M0CM
Description:
The device, \Device\CdRom1, has a bad block.

For more information, see Help and Support Center athttp://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

2nd Message)

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Dhcp
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1003
Date: 8/22/2004
Time: 2:13:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: NONE-7DB9Y2M0CM
Description:
Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 0050BAAEF988. The following error occurred:
The semaphore timeout period has expired. . Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server.

For more information, see Help and Support Center athttp://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
  User Icon Hammerhead1st

Newbie (7 Posts)
Newbie (7 Posts)

10/5/2003 3:12:03 PM


Guess what?

Emoticon For some reason, everything just STOPPED freezing up! Puter's been running fine, no hesitations, no slwo-downs, nothing wroong. Only thing I did different? I blew out my CPU cooling fan tower fins. Used a paper clip to get all the dust out and used a vaccuum cleaner (as opposed to compresed air) to suck the crap out of it. Think maybe too much heat? Time will tell, and the funny thing is, now my friend just called me to tell me that his is doing the SAME THING!!!
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It's not outa gas, man, I just put in 10 cents 2 days ago!
  User Icon gibart

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Newbie (1 Posts)

10/21/2003 5:31:52 AM


EmoticonEmoticonThis is my solution to XP Freezing !!!

I had exactly the same problem : XP Pro was always freezing, very frequently and more and more by the time. I couldnt even install a new version of XP after formating my HDD, it freezes before finishing the installation !!

After trying to change my cards, my ram, my HDD, etc., I finally updated my BIOS (found the bootable diskette on the site of the manufacturer of my PC, an IBM with Athlon 1Ghz) and EVERYTHING IS FINE (for now...). It seems it was only the BIOS... Emoticon
Hope this will help.

Gibart.
  User Icon Mithrantir

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Newbie (55 Posts)

10/22/2003 4:54:37 AM


@ 4-PLAY
These messages have nothing to do with your freezing problems. Check out your pc for dust at first and then if this problem persists please write down in here your computers hardware configuration and see what we can do.
  User Icon TheSergeant

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Newbie (2 Posts)

3/17/2004 4:11:36 PM


A friend of mine was having the exact same problem, and if you are using more than one name brand of ram at the same time that is your problem he was using 128 kingston and 128 of something else and it was freezing his machine.
    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by fogdog:
    I've been having this problem repeatedly. My windows XP freezes randomly at various times. I thought it might be a problem with the hard drive or something in it, so I reformatted the drive and reinstalled XP. Unfortunately, it is still freezing up. Oddly enough, XP freezes sometimes when sound is used or something like that and it freezes sounding like a broken record.

    PLease help, I would greatly appreciate it!




  User Icon TheSergeant

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Newbie (2 Posts)

3/17/2004 4:21:42 PM


Try using the same kind of ram in your slots (if you are using more than one stick) and it should stop that, a friend of mine had the same problem, changed his ram now he's fine
    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by fogdog:
    I've been having this problem repeatedly. My windows XP freezes randomly at various times. I thought it might be a problem with the hard drive or something in it, so I reformatted the drive and reinstalled XP. Unfortunately, it is still freezing up. Oddly enough, XP freezes sometimes when sound is used or something like that and it freezes sounding like a broken record.

    PLease help, I would greatly appreciate it!




  User Icon curriescorner

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Newbie (1 Posts)

4/6/2004 3:46:57 PM


Sup fellow XP frozen computers. I had the same issue with my old computer and I noticed two things seemed to fix it. First I took off my case and I put my fan next to it. At first that seemed to fix the problem. After a while It was still freezing up. I got so used to it when It would go a day or so without freezing up I thought someting was wrong.

After I picked up some cleaning cans and I gave my computer a through cleaning. It was pretty dirty from having the case off. I took the fan off the cup and I clean that with a Q Tip and I sprayed the computer throughly. After that it was working fine. I would suggest always using more than 128 mb of ram. Also clean out your pc thoroughly and keep it cool. I also read from studying for the A+ exam some lock ups are due to the power supply so check that as well. These are just other things to do aside from technical solutions. take care.
  User Icon darklomba

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Newbie (1 Posts)

4/7/2004 1:47:40 PM


Three letters: P S U

Every time I had a "misterious" problem with my machine, it ended being the PSU. Sometimes, and what is actually happening to me, I think the PSU is being broken by something else than use and time. I think this time my PSU's are being broken because of a voltage fault im my wall outlet, or samething like this.

Recently, I could turn on the computer, but it could never start. An "expert" told me to buy a new mobo, so I did it. The same thing happened with the new mobo. Fortunatelly, the guy who sold me the mobo, accepted to change the new mobo for memory, so I upgraded that. But the reason whan a cheap PSU.

Then, after I changed it, everything worked great until it started freezing sometimes, but increasing the number of freezings, until it completely froze. Again the PSU.

Now, with the new PSU, my computer starts, but when I connect more than 2 drives, the freezing keeps happening. That's why I think I have a wall outlet voltage problem. I hope this will stop happening.

But remember, I bet you that your problems are in the PSU.

Hope this works for someone.

Manuel
  User Icon Scrapster

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Newbie (1 Posts)

4/8/2004 8:43:53 AM


can anyone help? I'm trying to sort my friends computer. He has windows XP installed and when you try and click on My computer it just refreshes the screen and does nothing. This happens when you try and run anything from the start menu as well. However certain programs such as microsoft outlook and internet explorer will work perfectly normally. Is it a virus/bug and if so how do i sort it. He says that he downloadd all the available updates for his norton antivirus and that when he performed a full system check no viruses turned up. I can't access control panel or anything to help him. Another thing that is happeining is that his system is running ridiculously slowly. Any ideas??
  User Icon Rakukojin

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Newbie (2 Posts)

4/15/2004 8:42:40 PM


I'm not the smartest when it comes to fixing computers problems so I need help. It's a simple problem, my computer keeps freezing up on me. But I can't find a pattern. Sometimes it freezes when I'm watching something on RealPlayer, other times it freezes up when I am uninstalling useless programs, it freezes up when I leave it alone for a while, and even when the computer is loading up. And some days it doesn't freeze up at all. It's driving me insane because it's a new computer still, only about a month and a half old. Here are some specs:

Compaq Presario
3000+ AMD Athlon XP Processor
512 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM Memory
160 GB 7200 RPM Ultra DMA Hard Drive
Windows XP Home Edition

Even when I used system restore and system recovery it still freezes up. I've even tried disabling System Restore and using like every virus scan, registry cleaner, etc. (before I used system recovery) and nothing. Please help.
  User Icon jkezar

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Newbie (1 Posts)

4/16/2004 8:44:40 PM


I have an AMD 750 Duron on a FIC Mainboard AZ-11.

Freezes randomly every 3 hours, 5 mintutes, etc...

I use a 3COM 905 network card.
PC133 PNY 128 MB memory
I disabled the onboard sound card.
3DFX Vodoo 3 2000 Video Board
I blow a fan directly onto the mainboard(ontop of the CPU fan)
The stinken thing freezes solid all the time. My next investment is a PSU like the previous man said.

Anyone else solve this: with a FIC AZ-11 mainboard or an AMD Duron CPU?

Thanks,
jkezar@doc.state.vt.us
  User Icon gab0ar

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Newbie (2 Posts)

4/18/2004 12:54:31 AM


Same problem here, the computer freeze randomly, but it never hapens when its iddle, only when i move the mouse or the keyboard.

My comp:
Intell Pentium 3
MSI motherboard
geforce 2 mx200
Motorola modem
128Mb sdram

remove the modem and the gforce and still freeze
Any help would be apreciate
  User Icon Rakukojin

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Newbie (2 Posts)

4/26/2004 12:06:03 AM


Can someone please help me. I got so screwed over when my computer kept freezing up and made a lose my essay. I got screwed over by my teacher and she doesn't believe that my computer kept freezing up because that's like a standard excuse. I got 3 detentions because of this. And today it froze like 7 times today. Please is anyone can help me.

Here's my specs again:
Compaq Presario
3000+ AMD Athlon XP Processor
512 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM Memory
160 GB 7200 RPM Ultra DMA Hard Drive
Windows XP Home Edition
  User Icon puma_340cc

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Newbie (1 Posts)

5/7/2004 4:43:37 PM


Hello there people, i happen to stumble on to this forum by a complete fluke!!!
I have a very similar problem with my computer, I am running a AMD 12+ tuned to an 1800 (1.2ghz). A 40 maxtor hd as well as a 20 gig hd. All on a K7sem motherboard, sis chipset, 512 mb ram (256 soldered on), realtek ethernet card, built in sound. I have recently put in a NVIDIA XFX 5600 256mb ddr ram, (awesome card). My problem is that when i go to put in my windows XP Pro upgrade, (running win2000pro), it gets so far and then crashes and i then lose everything and have to sart over fresh. I have recently found the drivers for my monitor (Hansol 701a) it is now recognizing that. I have been told to load my XP Pro from safe mode....
If anybody has any further suggestions to try please let me know....thanksEmoticonEmoticon
  User Icon hihihi

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Newbie (2 Posts)

5/10/2004 5:26:04 PM


OMG i got the exact same problem which has occured even after i formatted 3 times now

I went to my event viewer and checked out each time my computer froze and i got this

The Software Cinemaster NT4.0 Driver service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

Any suggestions or helpful hints will greatly be appreciated plzz help
  User Icon hihihi

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Newbie (2 Posts)

5/10/2004 5:27:22 PM


OMG i got the exact same problem which has occured even after i formatted 3 times now

I went to my event viewer and checked out each time my computer froze and i got this

The Software Cinemaster NT4.0 Driver service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

Any suggestions or helpful hints will greatly be appreciated plzz help
  User Icon ElZorro

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Newbie (1 Posts)

7/26/2004 5:10:11 AM


I've been reading all the posts and no-one has done the obvious thing - contact Microsoft. I'm not going to because I don't have any problems. I just came across this forum by mistake and became interested.

Hope this helps.
  User Icon killaB

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Newbie (2 Posts)

7/29/2004 12:27:00 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by ElZorro:
    I've been reading all the posts and no-one has done the obvious thing - contact Microsoft. I'm not going to because I don't have any problems. I just came across this forum by mistake and became interested.

    Hope this helps.




wow, that helps alot! you know what i think if someone would contact microsoft..because of course your not going to do it, microsoft would really hop right on that issue, i'm sure they'd completely drop the whole longhorn thing and get right on it..no seriously...elzorro in all his lazy whimsy has found the OBVIOUS solution.
  User Icon Phaedrus

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Master Poster (2662 Posts)

7/29/2004 12:35:13 PM


Oddly enough Microsoft is a really big company. Did you know that they accually have people that answers the phones and give tech support. These people also have nothing to do with Longhorn development. So when your talking to them they are not being pulled off working on Longhorn. I know it's a crazy world. I know I've shocked you to death I'm sure, it's very hard to believe. WOW.
  User Icon killaB

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Newbie (2 Posts)

7/29/2004 4:51:10 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by Phaedrus:
    Oddly enough Microsoft is a really big company. Did you know that they accually have people that answers the phones and give tech support. These people also have nothing to do with Longhorn development. So when your talking to them they are not being pulled off working on Longhorn. I know it's a crazy world. I know I've shocked you to death I'm sure, it's very hard to believe. WOW.




oh, my bad, i didn't know that microsofts phone people were alswo programmers.
i'm also sure that microsoft is going to get right on that whole patch thing, give em a call right now, lets time it.
furthermore, it's not microsofts issue, it's your motherboard manufacturer and your harddrive manufacturers issue, microsoft doesnt right the drivers for those specific products, and the manufacturer then buys a liscense from microsoft to pass windows testing where it is tested under the OS.
if you really think that microsoft is going to route and programmers to this problem your on crack, why don't you start with the basics like making sure all of your MB and HD drivers are up to date, check your heat rating, probably upgrade your processor considering that 1.4ghz is a little weak these days and quite crying about microsoft.
also has anyone out there tested their HD's maxtors are known to have bad read write issues, i'd suggest trying out a DFT.
  User Icon Koolout

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Newbie (4 Posts)

7/29/2004 7:59:30 PM


I think I may have the answer. No I'm no computer genius. I've just been reading the posts and comparing all of your problems to mine. Here's my story: I have an AMD Athlon processor (1100mhz); WinXP Home; FAT32 Maxtor 40 Gig HD (boot drive C).
A couple months ago I added a NTFS Seagate 160 Gig HD (drive D) to hold all my mp3's, porn etc. That's when my problems began. Before that my computer ran like a dream. After installing the 160 Gig drive, I would get occasional system freezes, but ONLY when downloading new tunes to drive D. Couldn't figure it out. Didn't happen all that often so I didn't sweat it.
Then last week I finally decided to convert my 40 Gig C: drive from FAT32 to NTFS. For whatever reason, when I bought the PC the hard drive was formatted as a FAT32 drive. Everything I've ever read says how much more advanced NTFS is and that if you still have yours formatted as FAT32 you're basically a big moron. So I decided not to be a big moron any longer, and converted my trusty old FAT32 C drive into a spiffy new NTFS drive.
Now my computer runs much better, right? WRONG! Now it freezes every single fothermuckin' day! Not only when accessing the D drive, but now even when accessing what used to be my reliable old C drive.
I'm convinced that the problem is this:
AMD chip + WinXP + NTFS formatted HD = one big dogdamned headache!
So it ain't pretty, but I think what you've got to do is reformat all those NTFS drives back to FAT32. Pro: it should stop the freezes. Con: you have to reformat your hard drives (losing all data in the process). I hate to do it, but as soon as I finish this post that's what I'm going to do. As soon as I can get back online I'll report back to let you know how it went. Not looking forward to this afternoon. Sheesh!
  User Icon Koolout

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Newbie (4 Posts)

7/30/2004 6:12:03 PM


On second thought, I figured I'd try updating the BIOS before re-formatting my HD's. Just did the update. So far so good. I'll report back if I get another freeze.
  User Icon Koolout

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Newbie (4 Posts)

8/1/2004 1:46:59 PM


Hooray for me!! Hooray for me!! Hooray for me!! The BIOS upgrade did the trick! So what have I learned? Well if you have an "old" computer (2001 or earlier) and your freezing problems didn't start until after you upgraded your hardware (bigger HD, NTFS formatted HD, etc.) my guess is your BIOS cannot handle the new hardware configuration. If your Event Viewer shows errors similar to this one, that is definitely the case:

AMLI: ACPI BIOS is attempting to read from an illegal IO port address (0x71), which lies in the 0x70 - 0x71 protected address range. This could lead to system instability. Please contact your system vendor for technical assistance.

The solution? Update your BIOS. I got mine from eSupporthttp://www.esupport.com/biosupgrades/index.cfm

If there's no update for your BIOS, or the update doesn't solve your problem. You might want to take the drastic step of reformatting any NTFS drives to FAT32 format.

Good luck guys. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences, ideas and insights. I'm outta here. I won't be checking this board anymore, but if anyone wants to contact me hit me at koolout at hotmaildotcom.
  User Icon erickson

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Newbie (1 Posts)

8/5/2004 4:23:05 AM


I hate to create additional cause for concern, but if your system is freezing it might be due to virus or spyware issues. My XP was freezing occasionally, and then I found gaobot on my system, and after removing it, the freezing stopped. This was most certainly the problem with my laptop (actually goabot, installs itself using the same name as svchost.exe process so it is difficult to detect unless you are using virus/spyware detection tool such as AVG or Norton).


This post was last edited by erickson on Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 4:25:16 AM.
  User Icon ferrari2604

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Newbie (1 Posts)

8/8/2004 3:24:27 AM


I've been having similar problems from Day One (Two years now !!)...I was using Windows 98, then installed XP along with 512 memory, pentium III. I have bags of memory available and it freezes regardless of whether or not i'm using Sound, on the net or just using programmes. Yesterday it froze whilst on MSN, the day before it froze when using Photoshop (and not connected to the web). Sometimes it can go for days and days without freezing and other times, I can log onto some sites and it freezes immdiately. When that happens, I re-boot and go back to that same site to see what happens and sure enough, it will freeze again.

The appears to be no consistancy or indeed logic behind this now very annoying occurance......SOMEONE PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  User Icon WIENER

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Newbie (1 Posts)

8/21/2004 11:55:58 AM


I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM LAST MARCH. I HAD PURCHASED A NEW BIO STAR ATX MOTHER BOARD FROM COMPUVISOR. COM AND FOUND THAT IT HAD BIOS THAT WOULD NEVER WORK WITH XP. I THINK THAT THEY OPERATE OUT OF A GARAGE BECAUSE IF YOU CALL THEM THEY NEVER ANSWER ANY OF THEIR PHONE EXTENSIONS. I DISALLOWED THE CHARGE ON MY CREDIT CARD AND AFTER 90 DAYS THE CARD COMPANY MADE THE CREDIT PERMINENT. I BOUGHT A NEW ATX INTEL BOARD AND HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS SINCE.
    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by ferrari2604:
    I've been having similar problems from Day One (Two years now !!)...I was using Windows 98, then installed XP along with 512 memory, pentium III. I have bags of memory available and it freezes regardless of whether or not i'm using Sound, on the net or just using programmes. Yesterday it froze whilst on MSN, the day before it froze when using Photoshop (and not connected to the web). Sometimes it can go for days and days without freezing and other times, I can log onto some sites and it freezes immdiately. When that happens, I re-boot and go back to that same site to see what happens and sure enough, it will freeze again.

    The appears to be no consistancy or indeed logic behind this now very annoying occurance......SOMEONE PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  User Icon protozoider

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Newbie (1 Posts)

8/22/2004 2:19:42 PM


I've been having the same problem for the past few weeks. I have run Win98 for a few years and updated to XP earlier this year. I've never had a freeze up. My computer runs flawless all the time. I have a SOYO motherboard and AMD processor and though people on here stated it could be the VIA chipset, I doubt it. As I said, my system ran flawless up till a few weeks ago.

Here's a question, how many of you with the problem have all of your XP updates? You know, those critical updates you have to have? Well I updated mine when they came out with new ones a couple weeks ago. After that I started having major problems. My computer would randomly restart and sometimes freeze up. I would get errors saying windows was using the ACPI illegally in my system log. So I searched and found the answer to update my BIOS. I did. Now it doesn't restart but it still freezes. So, I emptied out my system and reinstalled everything except the windows updates. No problems. I installed them one by one. Eventually I started having the freeze ups again. At random places too.

Here's the big thing, I only noticed freeze ups when using a Microsoft program. Outlook, Internet Explorer, even Microsoft Word. Never had the problem in a non MS program as long as those other ones weren't open.

My ideas of what caused the problem.
1. Windows damaged the BIOS
2. Windows has an update that causes problems with certain system configurations
3. Windows has major problems with SOYO systems

No matter what I know windows caused it. I'm 90% certain it's from an update. I'm thinking it's either the IE update or the other non security updates. There are some updates that are required but not security updates. As I said the freezing is so random that I can't figure out exactly what it is. I would bet that Windows has caused damage to the BIOS because my computer after freezing up in windows, will sometimes freeze up when booting the system or after checking the memory. But if I turn it off, no problems. Only when I reset. XP is putting some bad data through the BIOS I think.
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8/27/2004 5:32:57 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by chris07140:
    GREAT WAY TO MAKE MONEY-READ THIS!!!!!!
    Monday, 17-Aug-98 01:09:13

    130.85.97.152 writes:

    HOW TO TURN $6 INTO $6,000!!!!!!
    READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE!

    One comment...
    This is just a pyramid scam. Those in early grt the money. Those that come in later get squat.

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  User Icon ythpstr

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Newbie (1 Posts)

8/31/2004 3:37:38 PM


I also have a system that is freezing up. It is an AMD 1800+ with 512 MB SDRam. It has never given issues before, but now it freezes with the pipes screensaver. If i try to remove the screensaver, it locks up. If i leave the system for the 10 minutes it takes for the screensaver to kick-on, then it locks up. Microsoft has nothing on this. Fans all works (4 of them); no dust, 64 MB AGP video card, correct drivers. Any ideas?
  User Icon Koolout

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Newbie (4 Posts)

9/12/2004 4:20:35 AM


Try updating your BIOS, worked like a charm for me.

    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by ythpstr:
    I also have a system that is freezing up. It is an AMD 1800+ with 512 MB SDRam. It has never given issues before, but now it freezes with the pipes screensaver. If i try to remove the screensaver, it locks up. If i leave the system for the 10 minutes it takes for the screensaver to kick-on, then it locks up. Microsoft has nothing on this. Fans all works (4 of them); no dust, 64 MB AGP video card, correct drivers. Any ideas?


  User Icon dkoecma

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Newbie (1 Posts)

9/14/2004 1:41:01 PM


I have a AMD XP +2600 with 512Ram and have replaced every component inside the computer almost 2 times trying to troubleshoot my problem, I was convinced the CPU was bad, the lockups would be completely random, then the were more frequently on boot up, I have Windows XP Pro SP1. I updated to Service Pack 2, and the problems ulmost completely DISAPPERARED!!! You probably will not get MICROSOFT to admit there is something wrong with there OS, but I believe that SP will help. Goto www.microsoft.com
  User Icon midtoad

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Newbie (1 Posts)

9/19/2004 2:00:26 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by sodablue:
    Second - Driver issues. Make sure you have the up to date BIOS on the motherboard.




well, I read through most of the other posts in this topic before taking up this piece of advice, and it was decisive in solving my problem.

I have an ECS P4VSASD@+ MoBo with a 1.7 GHz P4 in it. It has run flawlessly on Win2k, but a few glitches since upgrading to WinXP, degrading to 3-6 or more freeze-ups per day since installing SP2. Common to both OS versions however, was that my new Western Digital 200 GB drive in a USB 2.0 external enclosure would cause the PC to hang at the BIOS start-up phase; I was simply unplugging it until past that stage.

My freeze-ups were happening mostly while using P2P software, but indeed it seemed that any app that wrote to the external drive was having problem. Explorer would spontanaeously restart numerous times per day, for instance.

After updating the BIOS from a 2002 to a 2003 version, I immediately noticed that the external drive was recognized by the BIOS. Sure enough, once I re-started XP with the new BIOS, my problems have ceased. Hope this helps!

Stewart in Calgary
midtoad at shaw dot ca
  User Icon dougal813

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Newbie (1 Posts)

9/24/2004 3:10:29 PM


I am having a problem with my XP Pro machine freezing. Here's what I have tried so far. I have updated my bios to the latest version. I have updated the drivers for my sound, video, and wireless NIC. I have formatted my hard drive multiple times but still get it. I have used memtest to check my RAM. I used Maxtor's HD utillity and that checks out ok.

I have also removed all CD-Rom drives and it still does it. There is no floppy drive attached. I have removed my sound card and NIC completely and it still freezes. I have tried removing individual sticks of RAM but I still get it.

The system temp is hovering around 36 degrees celcius and I have also removed the side of the case and it still does it. All 5 fans are working and they are maxed out on speed.

I am currently running a Athlon 1.4 GHz on a Tyan Trinity KT-A (yes i know it's old).
I have 512 MB of PC133 (yes i know it's old)
ATI Radeon 9500
Maxtor 60GB hard drive
Netgear Wireless Adapter WG311
Sound Blaster Live Value

Any ideas?
  User Icon marym

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Newbie (1 Posts)

10/8/2004 11:34:36 AM


I have tried everything listed in this forum for my freezing xp sp2. I had no errors logged in event viewer. If I had to guess why my computer h@sstabilized for the last hour, it would be underclocking from 133 to 100, and reseating RAM, which explains why my PIII 533 mhz is not suitable for NTFS. We will see....
Stats:
PIII 533 Mhz
382 mg RAM
Fujitsu 20 g hard drive, 12 g free

trouble shooting:
Norton antivirus
Spybot
Adaware
Spyware Blaster
CWShredder
various on-line anti-virus/anti-trojan scans
chkdsk /r
fujitsu diagnostics
memory diagnostics
resolved IRQ conflicts between onboard sound and modem
updated all drivers
Event Viewer free of errors
reseated 2 sticks Kingston RAM
reseated all PCI cards, IDE cables, drives
decelerated hard drive (Display>Settings>Advanced>Troubleshoot>slider at half
disabled IE pop up blocker
set MSCONFIG to normal startup (previously selective startup)
BIOS changed from pnp OS to no pnp OS, then back again
temperature OK, fans working
no BIOS update available
disabled hibernation and disk/monitor shutoffs
disabled screensaver
disabled Windows Firewall, and all exceptions
security set to medium
home network behind DLINK 604 router,settings checked, MTU at 1448 (for VPN)
underclocked 133 mhz to 100

No freeze ups for 5 hours. Freeze ups had previously occured every 5 minutes to 1 hour, while using computer or while computer was idle

No errors now for 4 weeks. This works!

This post was last edited by marym on Thursday, November 04, 2004 at 10:09:47 AM.
  User Icon epicenter

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10/8/2004 4:00:25 PM


I have the Presario 700 laptop w/900 MHz Duron, 256 Mb, DVD (no CDRW), and Windows XP Pro SP1. It was 100% reliable since Nov 2001 except once when I added RAM and it would randomly freeze, so I simply removed the upgrade RAM (both of 2 different major brands).

I have dialup Internet and never ran Windows Update. In Aug 2004 I had acces to high-speed Internet so I ran all critical updates -- but not SP2. The random freezes (screen and cursor frozen in place, no mouse or keyboard response) started soon after that, or else my RAM is getting flaky.

I will start uninstalling the hotfixes in the hope it does something.
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10/25/2004 1:40:08 PM


Well, 2 weeks later... I've carefully uninstalled ~12 hotfixes, reseated RAM, uninstalled a flaky free DivX player, and even uninstalled MS Streets & Trips 2005 (which was mentioned in the uninstall of one of the hotfixes as "may be affected").

After each one, I logged it and went about my business, waiting for a crash, which eventually happened, until the uninstall of a hotfix for Windows Media Player (I have 9.0), since which the crashes seem to have stopped.


I think the only lesson is that there are potentially more reasons for Windows systems doing the 'screen freeze' thing than there are PCs in the world.
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10/27/2004 2:58:48 PM


Been searching the net, seems like it's been months, for the answer to my system freezing, when I came across this sight and the great ide@ssubmitted on this thread. I just printed out 46 pages of peoples ideas on how my XP freeze up problems could possibly be solved. You've all given me hope and maybe someday my family will forgive me for upgrading to XP. Why did I do it? Windows 2000 was running flawlessly.

Is there any cl@ss action lawsuit yet against microsoft for foisting onto the unsuspecting public this "virus" disguised as an operating system? Put my name on the roister if there is. Perhaps this is a little too critical but when I count the hours I've spent trying to find out what's wrong with my system I could retch all over my keyboard and still feel sick about it.

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10/28/2004 12:26:05 AM


i am having a problem installing WebSphere Commerce Suite SPE 3.2 on Windows XP can anyone help me pls...
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11/12/2004 6:33:22 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by iamno1:
    Been searching the net, seems like it's been months, for the answer to my system freezing, when I came across this sight and the great ide@ssubmitted on this thread. I just printed out 46 pages of peoples ideas on how my XP freeze up problems could possibly be solved.. ..




I have the same problem. It hit my system* about a month ago, and I haven't been able to identify a possible cause, having stupidly lost all my Restore Points. I've already tried many of the remedies suggested here (without success, but thanks anyway) and IMHO the very fact that people have reported successful cures ranging from BIOS updates, through shuffling RAM cards around, to installing new PSUs, makes it impossible to pick out anything that could be common to all — except XP itself.

Has there ever been any kind of response from Microsoft since this thread started — almost three years ago?

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* PIII, 500MHz. 512MB RAM, Award 4.51PG BIOS, NVidia TNT2 graphics card, Windows XP + SP2, all drivers up to date.
Anti-malware: AVG6 anti-virus, Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S7D, AdAware SE and CW Shredder, all kept up to date.
All scans report that my system is clean.

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11/30/2004 7:08:39 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by Neddy:
      QUOTE:

      Originally Posted by iamno1:
      Been searching the net, seems like it's been months, for the answer to my system freezing, when I came across this sight and the great ide@ssubmitted on this thread. I just printed out 46 pages of peoples ideas on how my XP freeze up problems could possibly be solved.. ..




    I have the same problem. It hit my system* about a month ago, and I haven't been able to identify a possible cause, having stupidly lost all my Restore Points. I've already tried many of the remedies suggested here (without success, but thanks anyway) and IMHO the very fact that people have reported successful cures ranging from BIOS updates, through shuffling RAM cards around, to installing new PSUs, makes it impossible to pick out anything that could be common to all — except XP itself.

    Has there ever been any kind of response from Microsoft since this thread started — almost three years ago?

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    * PIII, 500MHz. 512MB RAM, Award 4.51PG BIOS, NVidia TNT2 graphics card, Windows XP + SP2, all drivers up to date.
    Anti-malware: AVG6 anti-virus, Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S7D, AdAware SE and CW Shredder, all kept up to date.
    All scans report that my system is clean.




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11/30/2004 7:09:12 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by Neddy:
      QUOTE:

      Originally Posted by iamno1:
      Been searching the net, seems like it's been months, for the answer to my system freezing, when I came across this sight and the great ide@ssubmitted on this thread. I just printed out 46 pages of peoples ideas on how my XP freeze up problems could possibly be solved.. ..




    I have the same problem. It hit my system* about a month ago, and I haven't been able to identify a possible cause, having stupidly lost all my Restore Points. I've already tried many of the remedies suggested here (without success, but thanks anyway) and IMHO the very fact that people have reported successful cures ranging from BIOS updates, through shuffling RAM cards around, to installing new PSUs, makes it impossible to pick out anything that could be common to all — except XP itself.

    Has there ever been any kind of response from Microsoft since this thread started — almost three years ago?

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    * PIII, 500MHz. 512MB RAM, Award 4.51PG BIOS, NVidia TNT2 graphics card, Windows XP + SP2, all drivers up to date.
    Anti-malware: AVG6 anti-virus, Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S7D, AdAware SE and CW Shredder, all kept up to date.
    All scans report that my system is clean.




Try disabling the hardware acceleration to none and untick the write combining for starters - I found this got rid of my problem on some xp installs, especially where old bios concerned.

This post was last edited by comman on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 7:15:33 PM.
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12/12/2004 1:21:21 AM


I have a question for this same issue. You see, I have had Windows XP running error free since it came out. All of a sudden, 2 weeks or so, I have been having random lock ups. I would try to access my digital camera to look at the pics and it would lock up. I would be looking through windows explorer and it would lock up. I would be changing visual settings and it would lock up. Nothing specific became noticable. I reformatted thinking it was time to reinstall. Got everything up and running and it started locking up again. The error message I see in the event log is DCOM. I have been using the same configuration for 2 years (ASUS ATA 266 with an Athlon XP 1600, 512 mb ram and 2 HDD (both Western Digital, one being 60gb the other 80gb). I have tried everything I know. I have an older case with a 250w power supply which I guess could be dying but would that cause random lockups? I was going to flash the bios but would prefer not to. I usually am pretty good about case maintenance, I blow it out regularly but about a month ago I was doing some home improvements that included sanding some a fllor covered with wood filler. When I was done, I went to the computer room and it w@sshut down. This was about 3 weeks before these random lockups started. I do note that sometimes the computer will not turn back on after powering down. It will sometimes take a few minutes for me to be able to turn it back on or sometimes it will turn on by itself. Please, I'm pretty good with computers but this one is really stumping me.



    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by pgranese:
    I have done EXTENSIVE testing on this problem for 2 months now. It is not a cooling or hardware issue. I have the Soyo K7VTA Mobo with AMD Atahlon and VIA chipset with WinXP and get the same random freeze-ups.

    I have isolated the problem to problems with the BIOS and XP. The BIOS works fine with Win98 but not with XP and there is no BIOS upgrade for this Mobo.

    You can find out what is causing the problem by running the event viewer which is what jlf2 above recommended (Control panel\performance & maintenance\adminstrative tools\event viewer\system). You will find many entries but look for the red circles marked ERROR. Read what the errors are and you will see the timestamp of those errors coincide with the time your system froze. My errors are that the BIOS is reading/writing to illegal addresses. As there is no BIOS upgrade I have to try to contact Soyo now and see if there is a patch. I'll let you guys know if I hear anything.

    Paul



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12/24/2004 8:44:46 PM


Hi you guys & Gals!

Freezing, Been reading this thread and had a look at a couple of suggestions and tried one.
Changed the crash on audit value to 1
left the computer for about 4 hours to see what happened and it froze after about 3 1/2 hours

The error log shows the below .

As I am not that much up on the Techie stuff I am unsure what else I should do.

Any Help grateful,
And as it is Christmas eve and I am waiting for Santa to bring a soloution.
If not then maybe someone else can suggest something.

See file log below

Regards
Gerry



The Peclottiua service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified.
24 December 2004 Service Control Manager The Peclottiua service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified.
24 December 2004 Dhcp The IP address lease 83.216.143.161 for the Network Card with network address 00403615FDDE has been denied by the DHCP server 0.0.0.0 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).
24 December 2004 Service Control Manager The Peclottiua service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified.
24 December 2004 Dhcp The IP address lease 83.216.143.161 for the Network Card with network address 00403615FDDE has been denied by the DHCP server 0.0.0.0 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).
24 December 2004 Dhcp The IP address lease 0.0.0.0 for the Network Card with network address 00403615FDDE has been denied by the DHCP server 0.0.0.0 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).
24 December 2004 Applicatio n Hang Hanging application firefox.exe, version 1.0.0.0, hang module hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.



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12/29/2004 10:17:54 AM


Tried just about all fixes listed above and finally tried changing my power supply and freeze up problem stopped immdediately. Depending on what you're running you probably need at least 350 watts. Go to Newegg.com to look for a reliable power supply.

    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by fotoco:
    Hi you guys & Gals!

    Freezing, Been reading this thread and had a look at a couple of suggestions and tried one.
    Changed the crash on audit value to 1
    left the computer for about 4 hours to see what happened and it froze after about 3 1/2 hours

    The error log shows the below .

    As I am not that much up on the Techie stuff I am unsure what else I should do.

    Any Help grateful,
    And as it is Christmas eve and I am waiting for Santa to bring a soloution.
    If not then maybe someone else can suggest something.

    See file log below

    Regards
    Gerry



    The Peclottiua service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified.
    24 December 2004 Service Control Manager The Peclottiua service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified.
    24 December 2004 Dhcp The IP address lease 83.216.143.161 for the Network Card with network address 00403615FDDE has been denied by the DHCP server 0.0.0.0 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).
    24 December 2004 Service Control Manager The Peclottiua service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified.
    24 December 2004 Dhcp The IP address lease 83.216.143.161 for the Network Card with network address 00403615FDDE has been denied by the DHCP server 0.0.0.0 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).
    24 December 2004 Dhcp The IP address lease 0.0.0.0 for the Network Card with network address 00403615FDDE has been denied by the DHCP server 0.0.0.0 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).
    24 December 2004 Applicatio n Hang Hanging application firefox.exe, version 1.0.0.0, hang module hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.






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1/1/2005 12:29:07 AM


i'm having the same problem with windows xp but only when i'm running one of my games like starcraft and starwars galaxies my error report is

ACPI BIOS is attempting to write an illegal IO port adress(0x4D1), which lies in the 0 x4d1 protected address range. this could lead to system instability.

I've heard that updating your bios may help where can i find one
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4/21/2005 4:54:09 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by Zero-X:
    ---8<---
    Anyone know any good ram checkers?



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from the basic 386 to the latest Pentium-based PC , AMD ? Athlon PC and Cyrix System.

DocMemory are available as a freeware ?which can be download from the CST websitehttp://www.simmtester.com or http://www.docmemory.com
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5/9/2005 11:38:57 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by steo:
      QUOTE:

      Originally Posted by Zero-X:
      ---8<---
      Anyone know any good ram checkers?



    *********************
    DocMemory PC Diagnostic Software is freeware and a user friendly DOS based memory-diagnostic software. DocMemory was developed to enable PC Repair technician to quickly uncover all possible memory problems without removing the memory from the PC System. New test patterns are constantly updated to capture a wide range of memory defects that surface within the memory modules, be it a Fast Page Mode, EDO, SDRAM, DDR or RAMBUS memory modules. The software is applicable for PC system using Intel or compatible processor
    from the basic 386 to the latest Pentium-based PC , AMD ? Athlon PC and Cyrix System.

    DocMemory are available as a freeware ?which can be download from the CST websitehttp://www.simmtester.com or http://www.docmemory.com


Chances are, all your computers are fine. I had same problem. In fact, I wasn't even able to re-install XP after I reformateed the harddrive. It freezes and gave me the blue screen whenever I tried to install.


If you checked your memory and harddrive, and found no error. If you stripped down your computer to a barebone and still have the problem. If your computer has been working for awhile and this condition suddenly happens. Most likely it's power/heat related.

Please check if your thermal compound layer is still intact. For those who doesn't know, thermal compound is a heat conductive gel like thing between cpu and the cooling fan. If not, just buy some from a computer store and apply it. If you never done it before, do a google search and find the instructions.


Good luck for all of you.
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5/15/2005 9:07:16 AM


Hi, I just found this thread because I had XP installed on my PC last week and 've been getting freezing problems sometimes when playing digital radio and also on certain websites. One of the websites that always succeeds in freezing the system is my "Online Banking Plus" where I can log in the once and go to all my bank accounts & credit cards without logging in with all the different user names and p@sswords and account numbers. I can get into each bank account separately by going through their own websites but the banking plus just freezes me up which is a real pain.

I ran the disk checker which didn't find any errors, and I tried accessing the site with the Microsoft Spyware turned off but it still freezes up.

Has anyone come up with a solution for this?

Oh also, don't know if it has any relevance, I can't install the cumulative update for Service Pack 2. I've tried 10 times now but it fails every time.

Shaz
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5/18/2005 9:57:56 PM


I've read all of the above, and I found that I have a unique problem with freezing...

My computer has been running perfectly för years. I've been upgrading components without any problems in the past, but last week I bought some DDR RAM to replace my SDRAM. Then hell broke loose.

First day: All fine, no freezes. Played World of Warcraft for like 12h.

Second day: Freezing occurred during several different tasks. Booting (when starting windows), surfing(IE), idling, installing programs or just opening folders. Tried putting in my old SDRAM and the peoblems dissappeared.

Third day: Went to the store and swapped mem-sticks to Kingston. Tried at home, and it froze. Tried swapping slots, just use one memory at a time, nothing works.

Now I have had my computer to the store and let them check it up, they found nothing wrong with it. They adviced me to reinstall windows 2000. So I did, three times without any luck. I've tried installing Windows XP three times (formatting every time) and nothing seems to help.

Some things are strange:
The computer NEVER freezes while I'm playing WoW.
The computer NEVER freezes while in BIOS, just @ssoon windows starts or later.
I've tried two brands of DDR and both won't work, just my old SDRAM.
Event viewer don't show any errors.

Do you really think it's wise to flash the BIOS if my computer might freeze during the process?
Think a stronger power supply might do the trick, if the DDR demands more voltage than the SDRAM?

I have a MS8137C mainboard, Athlon 2400+, ATI 9600pro and Sound Blaster Live. (Don't remember the brand of the Netadapter)

I will add the person who solves this problem to my personal Idol-list, and worship you til the end of times. Emoticon
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5/23/2005 9:19:16 PM


Ok. Think I solved my own problem.

Entered BIOS a last time and realized that I can try to load "fail safe settings". I did and now the computor never freezes.

Been working for three-four days now without errors, so something in BIOS was wrong earlier.

There are some settings regarding memory handling, that I don't really understand that changed when I loaded fail safe settings...
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7/1/2005 12:32:21 PM


I have Phoenix BIOS which monitors temperature and automatically shuts down if it peaks beyond a certain point so I am putting faith in the BIOS for the sake of warranty purposes that my freezing is not caused by overheating.

My computer had been freezing repeatedly and I thought this was due to a virus because VirusScan's are usually about a month late for any real resolutions

I have Zero Filled my entire drive using Seagate's DiscWizard (creating a new Master Boot Record in case of virii)

I then installed XP again and the freezing h@sstill occurred. I have not successfully used the computer for more than 20 minutes in the past week. Sometimes the mouse and/or keyboard become unresponsive although drivers are installed for both, sometimes a program is executed and the computer locks up and since the drive is zero filled and a fresh format while running minimal processes @ssociated with Windows XP I have no idea what it could be.

I am using an HP A700Y with an MSI board, on board video, P4 2.8GHz, 512 DDR2100 RAM, 40GB Seagate Barracuda

I have all the drivers updated and installed with zero conflict

I refuse to try anything hardware related due to the fact the computer is only two months old and was working flawlessly for several months and I believe there is a software solution available, but none listed above have worked for me as of yet.

This post was last edited by skuzzy on Friday, July 01, 2005 at 12:34:01 PM.
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7/15/2005 10:57:09 PM


Has anyone noticed the system clock slowing down before the freeze?

We're on DSL and I have the unit configured to update the clock via the internet.

Our freezes started about three weeks ago. PC is only about 10months old and its sibling purchased at the same time is working fine.

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7/21/2005 10:55:36 PM


Check your POWER SUPPLY UNIT: Okkkkk

I had the exact same symptoms .... id est, a pc which ran fine for 6 months - then random freezings & random reboots all of a sudden, bios upgrade didnt help, reformatting and reinstalling didnt help, no issues with video card or HD etc.

I finally gave up and took it to PC Club. For $80, those guys ran a comple diagnostics of my hardware. According to the dude in PCC, the issue is with my power supply unit. He also experienced freezings while performing his diagnostics, but after he plugged his PSU in, the computer w@sstable for 36 hrs straight.

I bought a new 400W PSU - will try this out to night and respond to you all
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7/25/2005 11:10:04 PM


It IS THE POWER SUPPLY Emoticon

A week ago, had someone told me that the PSU was causing my random unexplainable freezes, I'd have thought they were delusional. But I was wrong - it was indeed the power supply unit.

installed my new PSU on Friday, and have been running fine for the past 3 days. So - yippie it is resolved. Thanks to the PC Club guys - worth the $80 I spent on diagnostics.

Thanks to everyone in this forum and I hope my solution helped you. I wont be checking this any further.

This post was last edited by bala977 on Monday, July 25, 2005 at 11:10:49 PM.
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7/26/2005 8:13:04 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by bala977:
    It IS THE POWER SUPPLY Emoticon

    A week ago, had someone told me that the PSU was causing my random unexplainable freezes, I'd have thought they were delusional. But I was wrong - it was indeed the power supply unit.

    installed my new PSU on Friday, and have been running fine for the past 3 days. So - yippie it is resolved. Thanks to the PC Club guys - worth the $80 I spent on diagnostics.

    Thanks to everyone in this forum and I hope my solution helped you. I wont be checking this any further.




My Windows XP freezes up on me even when I don't have the power supply (AC adapter) connected to it (running on battery power). Any help?
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8/22/2005 9:02:49 AM


Hey People...

I’ve had the same problem; My Motherboard is an Asus P4P800-E Deluxe...

It was the onboard LAN that was causing my system to freeze the LAN is called
Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller now I have this disabled in the Bois hope this helps any of you,

p.s. I did try to update the drives same problem...

Just want to say thanks to all of you that have posted on here, it give me lost of help thanks.

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8/25/2005 9:23:55 AM


Client's - Dell 4400/256ddr/xp pro/P4 1.5ghz

Freezing sometimes at oem splash screen sometimes at Windows splash sometimes at the desk top sometimes when running defrag or any app at all.

Nothing in the event log. System had been running fine for more than a year. Client had scanned for viruses and spyware.

Tried all the solutions posted on this forum even before googling and reading this forum.

stripped to base system. swapped power supply. video card. reseated ram in new slot. swapped ram. disconnected all other removable drives. flashed bios. cleared nvram. applied artic silver thermal compound to microprocessor. Blew out the case. Ready to hang it up.

SOLUTION (in this case)

As a last gasp effort ...removed the hard drive. Plugged it into a different box. Scanned for spy ware...no....scanned for viruses...no.....defragged ........YES! Also emptied Windows/Prefetch...but I'm 99.9% certain it was the defrag.

Bizarre? You bet....but that did the trick in this instance.

Good luck to all.

This post was last edited by hines on Thursday, August 25, 2005 at 9:25:38 AM.
  User Icon eternalrecluse

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11/7/2005 9:37:27 AM


Same problem here, I have a dual boot Win 98 / XP where 98 is fine but XP freezes several
times a day. System is maybe a year old and has been fine until now with both 98 and XP on
standalone installs. Think I may have cracked it, have been running for six hours now
with no lockups, which is much longer than it's been going recently. Here's what I did to
try and rectify the problem, in the approximate order (yeah I know, it's a bit random):


Chkdsk and hard drive diagnostics, no errors, still crashes.

Updated BIOS, still crashes.

Check temperatures, all well within safe boundaries, still crashes.

Updated all pertinent drivers, still crashes.

Fiddled with as many BIOS settings as I dared, still crashes even with optimised defaults loaded.

Event Viewer listed several errors involving ASPI drivers, updated those but still crashes.

Event viewer listed some more errors which turned out to be an incomplete install of
MS Office, reinstalled, still crashes.

Disabled hardware acceleration one notch at a time until completely off, still crashes.

Disabled all nonessential background services and processes, still crashes.

Disabled and then uninstalled Windows Messenger, still crashes.

Defragged both partitions of hard drive (this seemed to make the lockups more infrequent,
although that could be wishful thinking, but it didn't stop them).

Checked thermal compound, mobo connections etc, no problems, still crashes.

Ran Memtest86, no errors, still crashes.

And finally, the coup de grace (fingers crossed): disabled both my PCI and USB network adapters.

Obviously this isn't ideal, but I figure I can just risk crashes when I need to use the
internet and have a risk free OS when I'm not online. Even if it does prove me wrong and
crashes after I post this, at least it's less frequent than it was.

Edit: turns out it was the USB wireless adapter causing the problems, I'm using a PCI card now and the system is fine. Hooray!

This post was last edited by eternalrecluse on Thursday, November 17, 2005 at 9:51:21 AM.
  User Icon Lucifer

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11/22/2005 10:54:04 AM


Yep,same problem here.My windows Xp froze randomly without any apparent reason.I tried everything,every version of windows xp..still freezing.It seems it was because of some faulty drivers for my soundcard.I have uninstalled my soundcard and now it works fine.The bad part is,that the only Xp drivers for my type of soundcard are the one that comes in the Xp installation package.Even on the Yamaha website,they say that there aren't any other drivers for windows Xp.For now,I have to live without sound until I buy a new soundcard,or downgrade to win 98 Emoticon.It seems that the Xp freezing does not have a general reson,it can be anything,but I suggest checking your component's drivers.Xp is just buggy Emoticon
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11/23/2005 8:15:55 PM


The power supply causing freezes? I'll have to remember that...

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11/25/2005 3:50:06 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by eternalrecluse:
    Edit: turns out it was the USB wireless adapter causing the problems, I'm using a PCI card now and the system is fine. Hooray!




I couldn't resist posting after seeing this. I've also been having rampant random crashing problems. (like really random, runs for 2 days between crashes, sometimes only runs 2 minutes between crashes.) Like some other people there's no error and nothing shows up in the event viewer. The entire system just locks up. After trying almost everything mentioned here I changed my usb wireless network card drivers and *poof* crashes disappeared. Oddly enough however, about a week and a bit later, the problems have resurfaced. I'm just about to go and see if there's a new driver version for my linksys WUSB54G adapter... I wouldn't be shocked to find out if another windows update has made my USB and the card have some strange incompatability. XP is so flaky... I think I might want Win2k back.
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11/28/2005 11:58:51 AM


Hello, I just wanted to stop in and say thank you because this thread has been very helpful and pointed me in the right direction to fixing the same problem everyone seems to be having. My computer out of the blue decided to start freezing at random times. The only time it didn't freeze was when I was playing a game. But on the desktop or the internet, it didn't seem to matter what I was doing. Unzipping a file or just moving the mouse would do it. We formatted. It got worse.

In the end it turned out that it was the ATI Radeon 9000 graphics card not communicating properly with the BIOS, no matter what driver we installed. We reset the BIOS settings to default and reinstalled the graphics card and the latest driver and have not experienced one freeze. I know that this won't apply to many of you as Windows XP doesn't seem to need a reason to freeze, but I hope this helps someone.
  User Icon bepro

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12/20/2005 2:16:04 PM


Thanks Guys,

I founds lots of usefull information here.

This is what i tried.

Added New Video Card. -nope didn't work
Blow out Dust out of CPU -nope didn't work
Updated All drivers, -nope didn't work
Played with APCI setting in BIOS -nope didn't work
Event Viewer had nothing listed there -nope didn't work
Used Windows Debugger to review Mini.dmp - found failed Vid card setting & others
Disabled hardware acceleration (completely off), -nope didn't work
Crashed in Safe mode -nope didn't work


Updated BIOS, seemed to fix it.

  User Icon bepro

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12/20/2005 2:16:11 PM


Thanks Guys, Wow, this thread is getting long


This post was last edited by bepro on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 at 2:36:17 PM.
  User Icon munkee

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12/21/2005 6:47:22 PM


nice forum, this is a hard problem to fix down...

however, i use three computers, intel 3.2ghz, AMD 400mhz, AMD athlon 2400+. i have been having the random freeze only on the AMD athlon (via mobo), but not on the other two. take it for granted drivers are up to date, windows xp sp2 running on all three. (reloaded several times)

i discovered i can generate the freeze at will by plugging in a usb memory dongle and transferring files - again on the athlon only. the same usb dongle and transfer will not freeze the other two computers.

i am running a netgear wg311t but again after many many problems finally got the improved drivers and that works well with xp sp2....is it netgear, is it via, is it amd.....or is it a hardware problem with the usb ports?....

    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by beachfest:
    Hi People,
    Sorry for my crap advice earlier. I have now tried just about everything. Changed it all. I bought the following items new and ALL except the case (excluding power supply) has been exchanged.

    POWER: 400 W (Came with new case)
    CPU: Intel P4 2,4 GHz
    MoBo: Asus P4PE ++
    RAM: NANYA 512 MB 333 DDR
    GPU: NVIDIA on Creative

    I have tried with many different HD and I have tried to strip the system to its base components.

    So, the five items above have been exchanged for new ones. Nevertheless my system continues to freeze/hang. Mostly by just freezing screen. There is no possibility to control the system at this stage. I must reboot. Windows XP report NO ERRORS. The "event manager" has no complaints and all hardware (when they were installed) had no conflicts or problems whatsoever with drivers. They all seem to work fine.

    I have p@ssed through 4 Graphics cards to eliminate that source. I am currently on my third Power Supply. The second identical CPU and MoBo. The first RAM was OEM (no name) but that was changed to current NANYA original. Hence, all core components have been switched. However the system will still freeze.

    I should emphasize it is NOT due to heat. At least not according to any built in measurements. They report normal operating temperatures of 35-40 Deg Celcius.

    And to dissapoint the post earlier that this would only concern AMD processors. That is not the case. I am now on my second Intel CPU with the same problems occuring. I now doupt the CPU beeing involved at all.

    Anyways. That was just a status report. If I solve it you guys will be the first to know.

    And please keep trying to solve this bloody annoying issue.

    Be well...


  User Icon J_Yip

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12/29/2005 3:09:42 PM


Regarding your quote:

Do yourself a favour and go to Kingston.com. With your mobo model number, go and search for the exact type of memory that Kingston recommends. Buy it from a store, order it online, just get that memory. Nanya tends to be a problem more often than not. Kingston memory (DDR333) 512 MB should be around $80 (CAD). It's worth the money.

This post was last edited by J_Yip on Thursday, December 29, 2005 at 3:11:02 PM.
  User Icon johnedeals

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12/31/2005 12:53:16 PM


Windows freezing problem has been taken care - thanks for all your replies.
John
  User Icon jimmyhoffa

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1/15/2006 6:41:40 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by johnedeals:
    Windows freezing problem has been taken care - thanks for all your replies.
    John




John, How did you fix it?
  User Icon cufarmer

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1/23/2006 1:23:52 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by johnedeals:
    Windows freezing problem has been taken care - thanks for all your replies.
    John



Not quite...lol...I have randome freezes. Heres what I've found.
1. Freezes during certain games only (COD freezes on high graphics settings, but COD2 runs fine on DX9 settings)
2. I have hibernate off, but it still freezes randomly while idle. Locks up completely (looping sound...sounds like high itched machine gun/whistle but choppy...ear piercing). sometimes its set off by a back ground notification pop up (Avast or WindowsXP) but not necessary for it to crash
3. HD light is solid light when crash occurs sometimes, and no light others..
4. Problem started or first noticed with BattleField2 ingame freeze.

heres my system...
ECS N2U400-A mobo
350W psu
AMD XP 2600+ (333) Barton
1024MB OCZ DDR400, 256MB Patriot DDR400 (problem started before addition of ram)
Maxtor 60 gig ide, Maxtor 250 gig SATA (pci controler) problem occured befor installation of PCI raid/sata controler
Toshiba DVD-rom, Panasonic CD/RW
nVidia 6600 AGP (300mhz/500mhz) @256MB with 81.84 driver
C-Media 6 channel generic sound card
nVidia nForce2 chipset....(CMOS set to "optimal")
System was running fine as is until a couple of months ago. I'm not sure if the iPod software or BF2 Special forces or what could have caused it. At the moment, i dont have internet at home, so uninstalling windows is not an option until i get net going again. I did have a lot of heat, but i added fans and turned down the performance settings in the CMOS. its not the in-game crashes that bother me..its the crashes while system is not in use that does (gaming creates problems...that i'm used to lol..)
Any help will be appreciated.
  User Icon binx

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1/27/2006 5:41:01 AM


when diagnosing a freeze i usually check hardware first. checking from the most obvious to the least. first thing i do is to feel the exhaust air coming out the back of the box with my hand usually, it's the ps and case exhaust. (i personnaly use a temperature gun, because it's convenient). then i put hands on both sides of the case. that tells me right away if a heat problem exists. if so, i the crack case open and check fans and for dust buildup in the wrong places- (fan grills, fan blades, air intakes, heatsinks etc.)
if air exhaust is slightly warm and case sides is cool and and fans are running then generally heat problem is dismissed for now.
if you have a custom built and installed case fans yourself then check if fans installed backwards.
if temps are ok, i would then get into (as previuosly mentioned by pganese) event viewer, and if seeing errors, open the device manager, check for conflicts and start disabling all the non-essential devices that can be disabled (in properties) that are found in the listings. if freezing stops, then i start enabling each device one by one and reboot after each enable. if after enabling a device it starts freezing again, then well you got your culprit. imho, doing this is better than pulling cables, cards, chips and components from the motherboard first because it actually checks the controller on the mobo and not just the device itself.
if still freezes, then i would start re-seating all connectors to devices that were not disabled in the device manager and try rebooting and running apps.
if still freeze then out come the utilities- memtest, hdd diagnostics tools, etc. if all ok and if still freezes then disable all background apps from msconfig reboot and check for freezing.
if still freezes, then re-enable background apps, revisit temp problem by running temperature checking utilities to make sure. if ok, and still freezing, then i would start considering messing with bios and repairing or re-installing OS.
usually when i follow this routine the cause for freezing shows up.
*however*, this routine is not chiseled in stone. i will deviate given circumstances that would lead me to try other things, and there's lots of other stuff that can be a consideration in the diagnostic process. to write it all out here in this thread would not be appropriate. this is just a loose and very brief guide that can catch many causes of freezing and that most peeps on this board could attempt without trashing something permanently.
i guess what i'm stressing here is not so much what can be done because we've all seen or heard of everything that i just mentioned. this is just a "logical"? diagnostic process that seems to work for me. hope this helps and really hope it does no harm.

This post was last edited by binx on Friday, January 27, 2006 at 5:47:20 AM.
  User Icon vinnym

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2/16/2006 12:59:11 AM


I hope this thread isn't dead. I have a similar problem on an old gateway (Athlon) tower my parents are now using. Many components are similar to several listed here (sound blaster card, chipset, ram, etc.)

Has anyone figured out what is causing this? Like others I thought it was a heat issue, but wouldn't the computer shut-off if overheated, not simply lock up? This has got to be the strangest thing I've seen.

Would like to hear how johndeals fixed his promlem.
  User Icon chill1982

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3/23/2006 7:34:49 PM


hey, i have the same prob, where after 2-10 mins of starting an application, doesnt matter what, it will freeze. the mouse cursor is able to move, but i have no ctrl-alt-del etc.
My specs are
Win XP sp2
athlon 1.7 ghz
256mb ram
radeon 9200 128 mb graphic card
2x 80gb hard drives

the only thing that i think cud be the prob as read from above is the athlon motherboard not suitable for XP, but unsure about that. Please Help

Many thanx, marcos Emoticon
  User Icon glen20

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3/24/2006 4:45:08 AM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by chill1982:
    hey, i have the same prob, where after 2-10 mins of starting an application, doesnt matter what, it will freeze. the mouse cursor is able to move, but i have no ctrl-alt-del etc.
    My specs are
    Win XP sp2
    athlon 1.7 ghz
    256mb ram
    radeon 9200 128 mb graphic card
    2x 80gb hard drives

    the only thing that i think cud be the prob as read from above is the athlon motherboard not suitable for XP, but unsure about that. Please Help

    Many thanx, marcos Emoticon




I've seen your specs and everythings is fine. There is one thing you need to improve, it's your 256 RAM. 512 RAM or higher gives you only 15 seconds hang. Why is it 15secs.? It is because of your anti-virus running in your tray icon everytime your windows startup.

If your PC hang more than 15seconds. It is because your RAM is only 128MB or only 256MB RAM. It actually needs more RAM when it need to startup your program specially inside your tray icon. To minimize the hang up at startup, avoid running other program in your tray icon except your anti-virus program and internet connection. Two icons in your tray is perfectly fine.

I also recommend you don't use any background from your desktop, just choose "none". Also use windows Cl@ssic Style when it comes to taskbar. Actually using Windows XP really needs higher RAM to make it run smoothly.

I have 640MB RAM... The normal hang is 15 seconds. If you have 768 RAM or higher, absolutely there is no hang, even your running avg virus in your tray icon at startup.

If your running windows 98, 128MB or 256MB RAM is enough to make it run smoothly.

Everybody must pay attention on this one. I won't repeat any of this anymore!
  User Icon athena2006

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3/28/2006 9:55:59 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by glen20:
      QUOTE:

      Originally Posted by chill1982:
      hey, i have the same prob, where after 2-10 mins of starting an application, doesnt matter what, it will freeze. the mouse cursor is able to move, but i have no ctrl-alt-del etc.
      My specs are
      Win XP sp2
      athlon 1.7 ghz
      256mb ram
      radeon 9200 128 mb graphic card
      2x 80gb hard drives

      the only thing that i think cud be the prob as read from above is the athlon motherboard not suitable for XP, but unsure about that. Please Help

      Many thanx, marcos Emoticon




    I've seen your specs and everythings is fine. There is one thing you need to improve, it's your 256 RAM. 512 RAM or higher gives you only 15 seconds hang. Why is it 15secs.? It is because of your anti-virus running in your tray icon everytime your windows startup.

    If your PC hang more than 15seconds. It is because your RAM is only 128MB or only 256MB RAM. It actually needs more RAM when it need to startup your program specially inside your tray icon. To minimize the hang up at startup, avoid running other program in your tray icon except your anti-virus program and internet connection. Two icons in your tray is perfectly fine.

    I also recommend you don't use any background from your desktop, just choose "none". Also use windows Cl@ssic Style when it comes to taskbar. Actually using Windows XP really needs higher RAM to make it run smoothly.

    I have 640MB RAM... The normal hang is 15 seconds. If you have 768 RAM or higher, absolutely there is no hang, even your running avg virus in your tray icon at startup.

    If your running windows 98, 128MB or 256MB RAM is enough to make it run smoothly.

    Everybody must pay attention on this one. I won't repeat any of this anymore!


  User Icon athena2006

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3/28/2006 10:02:54 PM


    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by athena2006:
      QUOTE:

      Originally Posted by glen20:
        QUOTE:

        Originally Posted by chill1982:
        hey, i have the same prob, where after 2-10 mins of starting an application, doesnt matter what, it will freeze. the mouse cursor is able to move, but i have no ctrl-alt-del etc.
        My specs are
        Win XP sp2
        athlon 1.7 ghz
        256mb ram
        radeon 9200 128 mb graphic card
        2x 80gb hard drives

        the only thing that i think cud be the prob as read from above is the athlon motherboard not suitable for XP, but unsure about that. Please Help

        Many thanx, marcos Emoticon




      I've seen your specs and everythings is fine. There is one thing you need to improve, it's your 256 RAM. 512 RAM or higher gives you only 15 seconds hang. Why is it 15secs.? It is because of your anti-virus running in your tray icon everytime your windows startup.

      If your PC hang more than 15seconds. It is because your RAM is only 128MB or only 256MB RAM. It actually needs more RAM when it need to startup your program specially inside your tray icon. To minimize the hang up at startup, avoid running other program in your tray icon except your anti-virus program and internet connection. Two icons in your tray is perfectly fine.

      I also recommend you don't use any background from your desktop, just choose "none". Also use windows Cl@ssic Style when it comes to taskbar. Actually using Windows XP really needs higher RAM to make it run smoothly.

      I have 640MB RAM... The normal hang is 15 seconds. If you have 768 RAM or higher, absolutely there is no hang, even your running avg virus in your tray icon at startup.

      If your running windows 98, 128MB or 256MB RAM is enough to make it run smoothly.

      Everybody must pay attention on this one. I won't repeat any of this anymore!


    you dont sound like a dont sound like someone ready to explain but the best to ask i need to tare down my start up but when i went to do so there is so much crap in there how do ya know whats safe ta turn off or not i have a newer computer all is updated and it still freezes so bad i have to shut down with lots of stuff running.i got geeks on call 5 min fix from utorrent seemed ta help a little any suggestions would be great.


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4/2/2006 6:56:12 PM


Hi

Two problems first is XP windows when i come to shut down frezzes on the shutting down screen so to switch the compyter you have to press and hold the on/off button for the 5 secs to switch the thing off and i know for a fact that doing this can't be helping the computers health.

Secound problem when i switch my computer on it loads up XP ok untill the desktop appears if you leave the mouse pointer on the main desk top area its fine and you can use items freely but when you move the cursos to the start bar at the bottom the egg timer appears and you can't you the "Start" option to load programs, But if you leave it then after while the computer gets itsa act together and you can start working properly with windows. And oh yeah one other small problem and that is the internet explorer is very very slow slower than a 56k modem and i have a DSL connection of 2.2mbps :-s

Thanks for your time and drop us a line if you need any othe info

A wild kitty
  User Icon batman

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4/14/2006 8:43:12 AM


I'm also having the same problem with my windows xp pro system hanging. I can repeatedly reproduce the hang when loading an office 2003 word file.

My config follows:
Product Desc= Pavilion zx5000 notebook pc
Product (PN)= DS474U
Service tag= zx507
System Board= 0898
Bios Version= F.45
KBC Ver= 31.45
Display adapter: Mobility Radeon 9200
driver provider: ATI Technologies
driver date: 2004.05.15
version: 6.14.10.6436

I found a workaround which may help us resolve this issue. I now boot the notebook and come in to it via windows xp remote desktop conneciton. The hanging no longer occurs. So this is a video driver and/or windows os issue. See if this workaround resolves your specific hanging of your system.

Regards, Snake
  User Icon FR4NCH1SE

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4/19/2006 11:49:36 PM


WTF Im having the same problem. My XP has been freezing like crazy. Do You guys think its because of that new Update that we got to dl over the weekend??? My problems have been starting since the weekend. WMP is freezing. IE was freezing. I called comcast and they said the internet is fine. ITs basically something f***ed up with windows XP or my ethernet.
  User Icon Johnnyw1shb0ne

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4/25/2006 3:09:46 PM


Thank god I found this forum,

I have been having the exact same problems with XP... Its an older PC, and started considerin that it was just age and time to upgrade.

Simply did a "fail safe (load defaults)" in bios after upgrading to the latest bios available for my mobo.

ALL IS working PERFECTLY now. Before I could barely last 30 minutes without XP freezing up and solid HD indicator light. Now I can actually use my PVR to record the NHL playoffs Emoticon

Sys (in case someone else has a similar system and it will help)

Asus A7N8X-X Mobo
AMD Duron 1.3
768 mb Ram
1 Maxtor 120 GB 6L120P0
1 Seagate ST380011A 80 GB
1 Seagate ST3120814A 120 GB
1 Liteon DVDRW LDW811S
1 Sapphire Radeon Pro 9600 256MB 8X
1 Spaphire Theatrix Digital PVR card
1 Creative Labs SBLive 24Bit 7.1


Looks for the most part this is totally a bios issue.

Cheers. And thanks to all for bein here and offering up suggestions.


This post was last edited by Johnnyw1shb0ne on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 at 3:13:43 PM.
  User Icon RobertorDaVinci

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5/28/2006 6:26:21 AM


I had the same problems and have tried solutions described here in this forum. Sometimes I thought I have the solution. But the problem comes again and again. Now I am sure I found my solution: Even I have my Pocket PC connected (USB) XP freezes before I have completed virus scanning or done hard working for hours. Since I have NOT connected my PPC, my XP (SP2) runs without any problem. I' ll connect my PPC only for a short time to sync in future.
I' m using ActiveSync 3.8 and PocketController. If there is anyone who has the FREEZE-problem and a PPC connected, should try disconnect the PPC first.
Please let me know if this solved your problem too.

Regards, RobertoDaVinci
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7/29/2006 10:53:21 PM


I had just built a new pc a few weeks ago running a dual core 3.2gig intel processor, 512 meg video card (ati radeon x-something 1900-something), 2 gigs ocz ram pc-5400, asus p5w dh deluxe mb, heavy duty power supply (enermax 660 watt), xp pro... yada yada.... and was pullin my hair out tryin to figure out why the h-e-doublehockeysticks the bloody computer kept getting random freezes, most of the time getting the repeated skipping cd sound where you couldnt ctrl-alt-del or move the mouse... basically, power down and reboot. I went thru the registry, allowed permissions on everything... still had the problem. Updated all the drivers, removed pinnacle studio 9... still having problem. I was running at about 39 degrees celsius on the cpu temp, 38 degrees on the case/mb temp, but noticed that the ati card was runnin at 50 degrees... I had ordered a zalman gpu heatpipe/fan combo that I didnt install yet (wanted to ensure that the card was good before upgrading that fan). I installed the new heatpipe on the gpu and dropped down to 41 degrees. I w@sstill having the problem... so I removed a dimm of ram and noticed that it said pc-5400, but when I had configured the bios, I had it set to pc-6400. So after calling up microsoft, reactivating windows (removing the stick of ram appeared to be a major hardware change which made me reactivate), I set the bios to the right ram speed, and wham! no more problems... I was capturing video from tv, I opened visio, photoshop, indesign, illustrator, imageready, outlook, word, excel, proshow gold, studio 9, musicmatch, windows media player, ulead dvd movie factory, nero... all at once... no freeze up. If I tried to just capture video and open one program, the computer would freeze. I know that the front side bus speed and the numbers corresponding to the ram speeds can be easily confused... I hope this helps someone from calling "geeks on call".



    QUOTE:

    Originally Posted by fogdog:
    I've been having this problem repeatedly. My windows XP freezes randomly at various times. I thought it might be a problem with the hard drive or something in it, so I reformatted the drive and reinstalled XP. Unfortunately, it is still freezing up. Oddly enough, XP freezes sometimes when sound is used or something like that and it freezes sounding like a broken record.

    PLease help, I would greatly appreciate it!




  User Icon SnowPhoenix

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10/13/2006 9:39:47 PM


Hello!

I've been having freezing issues also with my computer. I just built a Intel Pentium 3.0 GIG computer with a XFX GeForce 5600 Graphic's card with 2 GIG's of DDR Memory. The computer's mainboard has intrigrated sound. I had bought a 200 GIG SeaGate ATA-100 EIDE Hard drive to put within it. I NEVER had any issues with Hard drives before, and when I went to install Windows XP SP2 For the first time, it marked my HD as Drive H:. After installation, nothing would download correctly to my drive. However, reformatting the drive, and replacing Windows back on it, it finally marked my HD as Drive C: and everything ran fine. Anyone have any idea's why it does that? On another note: Since I have Window's up and running, the computer freezes at least 3 times daily. It mostly freezes when surfing the web in Internet Explorer. When it does freeze, the computer does not respond what so ever, so I have to reboot the computer inorder for it to work. If anyone has any idea's as to why this is doing that, please allow me to know.

Thank you!
Sincerely,
Elizabeth

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